Run flats vs regular tires.
#1
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Run flats vs regular tires.
I currently have Bridgestone potenza re tires with very little tread. What is the difference performance wise between a run flat or non run flat. I would like to get tires that can hook from a dead stop. I know this is a lot to ask for being that the ls puts down so much hp and torque. My tire size is 285/35/19. I would like to hear some feedback from others on their tire choices.
#2
Burning Brakes
I don't know about the Bridgestones, all I can comment on is what I've had. The stock runflats are crap, I could spin them way to easily when the weather got cool (like 60 or less). After the runflats worn out I went to Nitto INVOs and they were way better than the runflats but still they would break loose if i got on it anything under 50 (this is only with about 390 RWHP with a higher str stall). When the INVOs finally worn out I stopped being cheap and stepped up to the michelin pilot super sports, they are great too. I use to be able to go WOT at 40ish and spin pretty good with the INVOs, now I do that with the michelin PSS and they barley bark in cooler weather. The michelin PSS won't hook from a dead start since I have the stall but i think you're going to have a hard time finding a better street tire.
dicky
dicky
#3
Drifting
I don't know about the Bridgestones, all I can comment on is what I've had. The stock runflats are crap, I could spin them way to easily when the weather got cool (like 60 or less). After the runflats worn out I went to Nitto INVOs and they were way better than the runflats but still they would break loose if i got on it anything under 50 (this is only with about 390 RWHP with a higher str stall). When the INVOs finally worn out I stopped being cheap and stepped up to the michelin pilot super sports, they are great too. I use to be able to go WOT at 40ish and spin pretty good with the INVOs, now I do that with the michelin PSS and they barley bark in cooler weather. The michelin PSS won't hook from a dead start since I have the stall but i think you're going to have a hard time finding a better street tire.
dicky
dicky
Get rid of the runflats. I pulled mine years ago and starting using BFG KDW2. They are great tires. Switched over to Bridgestone as I got a good deal on them. Havent put as many miles on them but they seem to be comparable to the BFGs.
#5
Instructor
i have the same tires ^^^ I ran around at 26 or so psi for a while and they were decent from a roll if it was warm. after inflating fully, it slides all around. just a cam and bolt ons. sprayed it twice to realize the futility, now just waiting till spring to put my nt05s on
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I just replaced with non run flats, with AAA by my side, what better ride!
#8
Drifting
At 500 rwhp my Bridgestone RE-11's will dead hook 2nd gear above 70 degrees plus they are very good in the wet if you get caught in the rain. As for first gear, I would ease in and spin but it was totally controllable. But again, temperature would need to be above 70 and some heat in the tires for both scenarios.
Mounted and balanced these myself, best riding Corvette I have ever ridden in or drove.
Had the Nitto Invo's as well, very good tire up to 400 rwhp, anything above that requires an upgrade.
Light cars with power need better than good tires IMO....
Mounted and balanced these myself, best riding Corvette I have ever ridden in or drove.
Had the Nitto Invo's as well, very good tire up to 400 rwhp, anything above that requires an upgrade.
Light cars with power need better than good tires IMO....
#9
Safety Car
At 500 rwhp my Bridgestone RE-11's will dead hook 2nd gear above 70 degrees plus they are very good in the wet if you get caught in the rain. As for first gear, I would ease in and spin but it was totally controllable. But again, temperature would need to be above 70 and some heat in the tires for both scenarios.
Had the Nitto Invo's as well, very good tire up to 400 rwhp, anything above that requires an upgrade.
Had the Nitto Invo's as well, very good tire up to 400 rwhp, anything above that requires an upgrade.
Minimal spin in first gear generally requires practice, practice, and more practice when using any street tire. If your annual mileage is low and mostly driven in fair weather, an R compound tire is a lot of fun. I kept nitto drag radials on my camaro and I could launch hard on the street.
#13
The OEM Goodyear runflats were truly horrible when really worn. My daily driver would corner better than the Vette with the worn (but still legal) Goodyears runflats. Goodyear should really be ashamed of making that horrible a tire.
There are better choices in runflats now - but there are much better choices for performance in the non-run flat rubber. I went to conventional (non runflat) Continentals, and have been very happy with them. I carry a small $50 V-Air air compressor with me - and I carry a can of Slime that says it's tire pressure sensor safe (I have real doubts about that - and hope to never find out if it truly is tire pressure sensor safe). Between that and a AAA card - I don't worry about non having run flat rubber on the car with no spare. The other thing to remember about is that the non run flats are for the most part significantly less expensive than the run flat rubber.
There are better choices in runflats now - but there are much better choices for performance in the non-run flat rubber. I went to conventional (non runflat) Continentals, and have been very happy with them. I carry a small $50 V-Air air compressor with me - and I carry a can of Slime that says it's tire pressure sensor safe (I have real doubts about that - and hope to never find out if it truly is tire pressure sensor safe). Between that and a AAA card - I don't worry about non having run flat rubber on the car with no spare. The other thing to remember about is that the non run flats are for the most part significantly less expensive than the run flat rubber.
#14
I went went with super sport zp
If I can limp home to void a flat bed that makes sense to me .
Ride is way better then stock good year and they hook in warm weather .
No I don’t want to mess with a can of fix a flat or air pump .
If I can limp home to void a flat bed that makes sense to me .
Ride is way better then stock good year and they hook in warm weather .
No I don’t want to mess with a can of fix a flat or air pump .
#15
Le Mans Master
Well Said........they handle great in the summer and yes they get scary when cold but what dedicated Summer Performance tire handles well in the cold ??
As far as the Runflat comments ....
I Don't want to sit on the side of a road waiting on a tow truck and hoping that the guy won't wreck my car yanking it up ....
or trying to get a jack under my car , the car that needs a low profile jack to lift when the tires are full of air , what happens when it's sitting on a flat?? Where and how do u lift it ?
Or laying on the ground , trying to roll the car forward so i can see what punctured the tire , so i can remove it and use my plug kit, then wait 15 minutes for my pump to fill up the repaired tire
Or let me fill my 300 dollar tire and 50 dollar tps sensor with tire goop ....bet that will balance well after this .....
Hmmmm No ..... I will stick to my MPSS RF ...they are nothing like the Goodyear runcraps that came on the car and are much quieter plus i am not fooling myself into a sense of false security by carrying a plug kit , air pump a jack thinking that I can fix a tire if i get a flat ....
Dave
Last edited by Dcasole; 12-15-2017 at 11:27 PM.
#16
The reason I carry the air pump and can of "fix a flat" is all about options.
Most of the tire problems I've experienced over the years were relatively slow deflations - if I could pump the tire up to say 38 - 40 psi, limp for 10 miles, then repeat - I could get the car home. I've had one "blowout" type failure in 30 years (and it wasn't in a Vette) - and that forced me to change a tire on the shoulder of Route 80 early in the morning. Very interesting experience that I hope never to repeat !!!
Most of the tire problems I've experienced over the years were relatively slow deflations - if I could pump the tire up to say 38 - 40 psi, limp for 10 miles, then repeat - I could get the car home. I've had one "blowout" type failure in 30 years (and it wasn't in a Vette) - and that forced me to change a tire on the shoulder of Route 80 early in the morning. Very interesting experience that I hope never to repeat !!!
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