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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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Hi All, I know I've seen key fob threads here before but haven't been able to find one. With that said, got in the car this morning, pushed the button and nothing except NO KEY FOB DETECTED on the DIC. I tried a couple more times and still nothing. I pulled the escape lever, the door opened and the horn started honking. I reset the alarm on the FOB, closed the door tried again and bingo it started. Now I would think this to be maybe a battery issue but my wife had the same experience the other day and she doesn't know about the escape lever. Any thoughts?
Thanks for your help, Ken
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 07:49 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 08:26 PM
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You pulled the escape lever...does that mean you tried the button on the door and it would not open it?
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 10:10 AM
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You pulled the escape lever...does that mean you tried the button on the door and it would not open it?
Yep, the car was dead, I was able to get in and then nothing........
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed07
Fob battery?
That's what my original thought was but my wifes' FOB did the same thing. Coincidence ?
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 10:21 AM
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If the car was dead and you had to use the emergency release to get out, that's a car battery issue, not a fob battery issue. How old is the car battery?
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EVRose
If the car was dead and you had to use the emergency release to get out, that's a car battery issue, not a fob battery issue. How old is the car battery?
I have a 3 month old AC DELCO. I had a dead battery issue a month after I installed it and had AAA jump it. Took it to Chevy dealer, they tested it and said it was fine but that's another WTF dealer experience story. Bought a CTEK and all is fine. So with that, I don't think it's a battery thing.
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If it happens in the same place all the time it could be RF interference from something nearby. Or if you have anything plugged into the 12v outlet like a charger or phone, that can cause it as well.
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I had my OE delco battery as well as both of my original fob batteries die within weeks of one another. Might was well go for the trifecta and replace them all.

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The easy test for fob batteries is to use the glovebox slot to try starting the car.
However, having to use the emergency door release because the interior door button had no power, has no relationship to the fob, which rules out interference issues and any other fob problems.
Considering it also happened to your wife (please inform her about the floor release) and eventually started, the problem is an intermittent electrical issue. Check, clean, and tighten the battery connections and check the cable connection at the solenoid. Make sure there is some slack in the positive cable to the solenoid, since it's real easy to crack the post when the engine flexes. If the problem continues, it's an intermittent short in the battery.
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
The easy test for fob batteries is to use the glovebox slot to try starting the car.
However, having to use the emergency door release because the interior door button had no power, has no relationship to the fob, which rules out interference issues and any other fob problems.
Considering it also happened to your wife (please inform her about the floor release) and eventually started, the problem is an intermittent electrical issue. Check, clean, and tighten the battery connections and check the cable connection at the solenoid. Make sure there is some slack in the positive cable to the solenoid, since it's real easy to crack the post when the engine flexes. If the problem continues, it's an intermittent short in the battery.
I have been experiencing intermittent key fob issues for a while now; NO FOB DETECTED, NO FOB ON OR OFF. I'll check the battery cable solenoid possibility this morning. If it's a short in the battery, is it something that can be diagnosed or is it one of those issues that can't be diagnosed unless the battery is completely dead?
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Originally Posted by KenVette57
I have been experiencing intermittent key fob issues for a while now; NO FOB DETECTED, NO FOB ON OR OFF. I'll check the battery cable solenoid possibility this morning. If it's a short in the battery, is it something that can be diagnosed or is it one of those issues that can't be diagnosed unless the battery is completely dead?
You're talking about two different issues now.

You previously said you had to use the emergency door latch, because the door button wouldn't work. That's a clearly a lack of power from the car battery. After you opened the door, the horn worked, which indicates power was restored. AKA intermittent power.

A "NO FOB DETECTED" message indicates there is enough car battery power to run the car's electronics, but there is a lack of communication between the fob and the car. AKA electrical interference or low fob battery.

Resolve the primary power issue first. Deal with the fob problem later.
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Old Apr 13, 2018 | 09:12 PM
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I got that this week as well, went into house and got the other FOB and all was OK, I think FOB battery is shot,
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Old May 10, 2018 | 08:51 PM
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If the FOB battery is reading 3 or above volts it is not the battery. I had both of my FOBs die within a couple of week from one another. I replaced both of them and all is OK. Got them on Ebay.
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