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Alright guys I've been in a rut the last couple trips to the strip. My last 2 trips I've been really wanting to crack into the 12s but I'm being held back by my lack of driving skills. My car is a 2010 GS M6 with a decent start to a mods list and consistently traps 117-118 mph so I know it's got the power, it just needs some help on my end to get there. Do you guys have some driving tips that may help me achieve this goal? Thanks
Post your time slips.
We need to see your reaction times, and 60' times.
Also, what tires are you running, and how well are they prepping the track.
Also, a video of a few of your runs would help, since it may not be a getting out of the hole problem, but shifting problem down the track isntead.
Lastly, with a M6, you need to learn heal and toe to hold you at the line as you are holding revs to slightly clutch slip at launch, so you can get a faster release off the line isntead (read no line locks, so heal/toe is the next best thing to hold you on the line instead.
Post your time slips.
We need to see your reaction times, and 60' times.
Also, what tires are you running, and how well are they prepping the track.
Also, a video of a few of your runs would help, since it may not be a getting out of the hole problem, but shifting problem down the track isntead.
Lastly, with a M6, you need to learn heal and toe to hold you at the line as you are holding revs to slightly clutch slip at launch, so you can get a faster release off the line isntead (read no line locks, so heal/toe is the next best thing to hold you on the line instead.
Right now I'm at work so I won't be able to post any slips till tomorrow but I'll try to remember to get some up here. From what I can remember 60' were around 2.3 seconds so no bueno.
Currently I'm running a 345/30 20 Pilot sport cup 2s. Track prep was pretty decent one day, test and tune the next so not all that great.
I don't have any video of my runs unfortunately but I can pretty confidently say that shifting isn't so much the issue as it is getting out of the hole. Never heard of heel/toeing at the drag strip
Post your time slips.
We need to see your reaction times, and 60' times.
Also, what tires are you running, and how well are they prepping the track.
Also, a video of a few of your runs would help, since it may not be a getting out of the hole problem, but shifting problem down the track isntead.
Lastly, with a M6, you need to learn heal and toe to hold you at the line as you are holding revs to slightly clutch slip at launch, so you can get a faster release off the line isntead (read no line locks, so heal/toe is the next best thing to hold you on the line instead.
Reaction time has no bearing on ET.
Not sure how heal-toe would benefit a launch at the strip.
Originally Posted by AznPrswayzn
Right now I'm at work so I won't be able to post any slips till tomorrow but I'll try to remember to get some up here. From what I can remember 60' were around 2.3 seconds so no bueno.
Currently I'm running a 345/30 20 Pilot sport cup 2s. Track prep was pretty decent one day, test and tune the next so not all that great.
I don't have any video of my runs unfortunately but I can pretty confidently say that shifting isn't so much the issue as it is getting out of the hole. Never heard of heel/toeing at the drag strip
Timeslips will indeed help.
If you can have someone video next time from the side, that will provide valuable insight.
Here is a link to where many of us started that will help. http://www.rangeracceleration.com/
Once you read this and make some passes, we can further refine your performance.
Based on your 60', there is a great deal that can be had on the launch.
Although your tires are not optimum, you should expect 1.8-1.9s with practicing the correct techniques on a well prepped surface. A smooth launch with a controlled slight slip of the clutch while rolling into the throttle is what it will take.
You are correct on having the amount of HP needed. Those trap speeds can produce an 11 second pass.
List your mods for further assistance. (What clutch?)
With that MPH you should EASILY be in the 12s. I think you need to be raising your RPM at launch to get it just right. From what I remember, M6 C6's had launch mode....
Just personal opinion here from an old guy who took his first pass 60 years ago. The biggest problem I see is your tire size. Too tall, too wide, and too heavy. Grab a couple of 9.5x17 wheels and some 275/40x17 DR's for drag use. Look for OEM C5 or C4 wheels and Hoosier tires to keep the weight low. If you spin a bit, the light weight will recover quicker. Start pressure around 22-24 psi, then lower as needed.
I'd bet that you'll bypass the 12's and go directly into the 11's.
Alright guys here's some of my last time slips. The 13.1 was spinning basically all of 1st gear. The other 2 passes were bogged pretty bad. And thanks for the link, it has some very good info in there. Also thanks for all the suggestions guys I can really use all the help I can get. I'll try to get my girl to go with me next time I hit the strip and get her to take some video hopefully. Anyways guys my mods list is fairly basic. Right now I'm running PRC ported L92s, halltech intake, kooks 2" headers and a TSP Stage 4 F35 cam. Oh and I know I'm running extremely slow for the mods, but I live in CO so bandimere speedway is a little up there in elevation.
My advice would be to find vacant place where you can work on your 1-2 and 2-3 shifts without drawing much attention to yourself or endangering other people. The below video was taking years ago when I played around with drag racing for a couple months. I agree that with the speeds that you already hitting you should be at least in the high 12.6-12.8 range.
1. Your entire profile completed & read Instructions: Yes
2. A copy of your entire time slip posted to the thread as in post: 6939
3. The complete details of your pass using this template in your post: Yes
4. Year Corvette : 2013
5. Type of Trans : MN6
6. Type of Suspension : F55, Magnetic Ride set to Sport
7. Stock Performance options (as in optional gears with the automatic, & etc.) : None
8. Tires utilized : P275/35R-18:Front & P325/30R-19:Rear | Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position RFT
9. Modifications if any : None Stock Powertrain
10. Dyno numbers if you have them : Never dynoed although the Butt says around 400RWHP@390lb/trq
11. As much info you may want to add about the run, launch techniques, tire air pressure & etc :
Ran it in daily driven trim:
- after-market 10" sub with all wires, harnesses, and amp.
- Exhaust commander controller bypassed for always open NPP operation.
- Driver 205lb driver, car weight unknown.
- ~31psi front/rear tires, less than 1/8 tank of gas.
- tires @ 25k miles with less than 4mm of tread left on rear
- TC/AH set to Competitive Driving Mode
- Mild to sometimes sloppy 1st gear burnout in the box
- Attempted to launch between 3100-3300 RPMs, little to no traction from 3500RPM and above
___ Name of the Track - Fayetteville Motorsports Park
___ Date of the pass & weather conditions -11/9/14 ~60 degrees, DA: 525' via Dragtimes Webstite
Those are some nice clean runs. I need to get as much practice as I can, but I feel like my shifting is pretty decent. My main focus is learning to get the car out of the hole quickly. Hoping to make it back to the track next Wednesday
With that MPH you can easily run 11's. People don't realize just how much the 60ft affects the ET. Work on slipping the clutch quickly without letting the car bog, the best way to describe it would be to keep the nose up all the way through 1st gear with out letting the weight of the car fall forward and have to regather itself. It takes time but you can do it. Make sure you do all the things that are needed to make it happen. Lower your rear tire air pressure a bit, do a good clean burnout and don't drag water through the box, and go to a track where prep is good. Without prep you can pretty much kiss any chance of a solid street tire run goodbye.
With that MPH you can easily run 11's. People don't realize just how much the 60ft affects the ET. Work on slipping the clutch quickly without letting the car bog, the best way to describe it would be to keep the nose up all the way through 1st gear with out letting the weight of the car fall forward and have to regather itself. It takes time but you can do it. Make sure you do all the things that are needed to make it happen. Lower your rear tire air pressure a bit, do a good clean burnout and don't drag water through the box, and go to a track where prep is good. Without prep you can pretty much kiss any chance of a solid street tire run goodbye.
Thanks for the advice. I'll work on slipping the clutch and try letting some air out of the rears
Also here's my dyno graph for the car. It's corrected for our altitude so I'm guessing the car makes about a legitimate 400 whp. The car feels pretty flat in the lower Rpms as you can see, so I need to keep them up just a little while trying to keep wheel spin down
Launch like you would on the street if you were lined up next to another car and had to get out ahead of him and into his lane quickly (like if you’re in the wrong lane and need to get over to make your turn). Don’t go for max hard launch, just think “quick” like u are trying to beat the other guy to the tree. Then shift quicker! Stab the clutch and rip the shifter. It should be violent. I have seen some decent in car videos but a quick search of youtube didnt produce a good example.
Last edited by Huncle J; Jun 16, 2018 at 09:28 PM.
Launch like you would on the street if you were lined up next to another car and had to get out ahead of him and into his lane quickly (like if you’re in the wrong lane and need to get over to make your turn). Don’t go for max hard launch, just think “quick” like u are trying to beat the other guy to the tree. Then shift quicker! Stab the clutch and rip the shifter. It should be violent. I have seen some decent in car videos but a quick search of youtube didnt produce a good example.
Good idea. I've been trying too aggressively and spinning a lot I'll give your idea a try
Help me get into the 12s!
