Need help beating local jckass
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jan 2019
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From: Dallas, Tx
Just know that no matter how fast you think you are, there's always someone faster. Spend 15 large on your rig and there's always someone who's spent 20. Also know that doing more than a little street racing is just dumb. It never ends well. If you're running around with a street hard on, you'd better be on drag radials and hope you don't have to take a curve at speed.
In one of your myriad earlier threads, you mentioned a fun street ride. That's where you need to be. Not chasing your tail trying to keep up with the street warriors.
In one of your myriad earlier threads, you mentioned a fun street ride. That's where you need to be. Not chasing your tail trying to keep up with the street warriors.
Race Director
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From: Peoria/Phoenix AZ
C6 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
Stoplight races are won or lost by the time you cross the intersection. It's not as much about the power as it is how quickly and consistently you can put the power to the ground.
It takes a well experienced driver to launch a bone stock Z06 on DR's with a 60' time of 1.70 on a well prepped track.
A base LS3 with nothing more than a $2 shroud prop, a tune, 17" DR's, and a 3600 stall TC can match that.
On the street, the same Z06 is at a disadvantage, since controlling the torque on a poor surface is more difficult with the M6 trans.
If you've never driven a car with a high stall converter, you have no idea how superior the launch makes a difference. No cam, headers, blower, etc can be more effective. It's the ultimate sleeper mod.
It takes a well experienced driver to launch a bone stock Z06 on DR's with a 60' time of 1.70 on a well prepped track.
A base LS3 with nothing more than a $2 shroud prop, a tune, 17" DR's, and a 3600 stall TC can match that.
On the street, the same Z06 is at a disadvantage, since controlling the torque on a poor surface is more difficult with the M6 trans.
If you've never driven a car with a high stall converter, you have no idea how superior the launch makes a difference. No cam, headers, blower, etc can be more effective. It's the ultimate sleeper mod.
Racer
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 375
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From: San Antonio TX
BTR Stage 3 cam.....get the whole kit.
Ported and rod-modded LS3 intake.
1 7/8" long-tube headers
3200 stall Yank or Circle-D TC
Gears......in the 3.42 range.
Pat-G (Pat Guerra) tune.....he's in Victoria, so you can have him tune it in person.
KW
Ported and rod-modded LS3 intake.
1 7/8" long-tube headers
3200 stall Yank or Circle-D TC
Gears......in the 3.42 range.
Pat-G (Pat Guerra) tune.....he's in Victoria, so you can have him tune it in person.
KW
Last edited by KW Baraka; May 15, 2020 at 07:15 PM.
Team Owner
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From: altered state
St. Jude Donor '05
Love strong NA stuff also but if you want to spend and really feel a difference put a blower on and be done with it. Throwing a smal cam/headers at it may not give you what youd hope after you spend it all.
Too many crazy fast cars out there, most aare boosted or have 30kplus in mods
If i had to do it all over again Id have built a blower motor. Nice peak #s on a NA engine will still get its butt whooped by a crazy strong torque curve from a supercharger
Too many crazy fast cars out there, most aare boosted or have 30kplus in mods
If i had to do it all over again Id have built a blower motor. Nice peak #s on a NA engine will still get its butt whooped by a crazy strong torque curve from a supercharger
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jan 2019
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From: Dallas, Tx
Stoplight races are won or lost by the time you cross the intersection. It's not as much about the power as it is how quickly and consistently you can put the power to the ground.
It takes a well experienced driver to launch a bone stock Z06 on DR's with a 60' time of 1.70 on a well prepped track.
A base LS3 with nothing more than a $2 shroud prop, a tune, 17" DR's, and a 3600 stall TC can match that.
On the street, the same Z06 is at a disadvantage, since controlling the torque on a poor surface is more difficult with the M6 trans.
If you've never driven a car with a high stall converter, you have no idea how superior the launch makes a difference. No cam, headers, blower, etc can be more effective. It's the ultimate sleeper mod.
It takes a well experienced driver to launch a bone stock Z06 on DR's with a 60' time of 1.70 on a well prepped track.
A base LS3 with nothing more than a $2 shroud prop, a tune, 17" DR's, and a 3600 stall TC can match that.
On the street, the same Z06 is at a disadvantage, since controlling the torque on a poor surface is more difficult with the M6 trans.
If you've never driven a car with a high stall converter, you have no idea how superior the launch makes a difference. No cam, headers, blower, etc can be more effective. It's the ultimate sleeper mod.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jan 2019
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From: Dallas, Tx
Love strong NA stuff also but if you want to spend and really feel a difference put a blower on and be done with it. Throwing a smal cam/headers at it may not give you what youd hope after you spend it all.
Too many crazy fast cars out there, most aare boosted or have 30kplus in mods
If i had to do it all over again Id have built a blower motor. Nice peak #s on a NA engine will still get its butt whooped by a crazy strong torque curve from a supercharger
Too many crazy fast cars out there, most aare boosted or have 30kplus in mods
If i had to do it all over again Id have built a blower motor. Nice peak #s on a NA engine will still get its butt whooped by a crazy strong torque curve from a supercharger
Safety Car
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: South Florida
avoid valvetrain mods and engine mods in general. Try not to open the engine.
A small blower and a converter are two great ways to improve that 0-60 time without touching the engine inside.
From 60+ You would want either a turbocharger or nitrous. A supercharger is not ideal for high rpm or high mph racing (not a small-ish blower anyways)
Honestly I'd be looking at some kind of positive displacement forced induction with (all) exhaust mods (cutout and headers)
with a yank converter
With decent tires and some practice it would rip 0-60 faster than most cars with more power can, people underestimate the force of PD blower on the street... its not like a turbo, the torque is there instantly "surprise"
A small blower and a converter are two great ways to improve that 0-60 time without touching the engine inside.
From 60+ You would want either a turbocharger or nitrous. A supercharger is not ideal for high rpm or high mph racing (not a small-ish blower anyways)
Honestly I'd be looking at some kind of positive displacement forced induction with (all) exhaust mods (cutout and headers)
with a yank converter
With decent tires and some practice it would rip 0-60 faster than most cars with more power can, people underestimate the force of PD blower on the street... its not like a turbo, the torque is there instantly "surprise"
Burning Brakes
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From: Auburn Al
and what if you have more HP? MMMMM. I just finished up some work and was up for a retune, just so happens they were base lining a 2007 ZO6 garage queen never touched completely stock, pulled 455 RWHP my 2006 LS2 486 RWHP 442 RWTQ, before I did the increase in compression a C& ZO6 jumped me outside Atlanta and he couldn't shake me.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2018
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From: Auburn Al
the camaro's are heavier, mines just a lowly base model, BBS wheels made for a base give me 1 wider tires and you can't tell,
2006 Corvette MN6 LS2. Comp cam 231/239 113+4 LSA .617/624, Trick Flow "fast as cast 220's" designed for the LS2, Harland Sharp Roller Rockers 1.7, FAST intake manifold Cathedral port, 90MM TB,100mm MAF, Kooks 1 3/4 LT headers, 3 inch ZO6 mufflers, Airaid CAI, Tuned by Mike C. Vengeance Racing, most recent tune, 486 RWHP, 442 RWTQ updated 05/11/2020
2006 Corvette MN6 LS2. Comp cam 231/239 113+4 LSA .617/624, Trick Flow "fast as cast 220's" designed for the LS2, Harland Sharp Roller Rockers 1.7, FAST intake manifold Cathedral port, 90MM TB,100mm MAF, Kooks 1 3/4 LT headers, 3 inch ZO6 mufflers, Airaid CAI, Tuned by Mike C. Vengeance Racing, most recent tune, 486 RWHP, 442 RWTQ updated 05/11/2020
Instructor
Joined: May 2019
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From: El Paso Texas
I am no expert but beating the Z06 is a tough order. He has a weight advantage and adding a blower is going to add 100 pounds to the front of the car. If you get a blower, headers, stall, tune and pump up the boost you can complete. But you need good traction 17 inch ZO6 fronts with drag radials.
Advanced
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From: Honolulu
....08 Supercharged LS3, speckor works headers, tune, A6 with 2:59 gears. 610 hp at the rear wheels. C6 zo6 is no match for this car.
I have to get some good drag radials to get some traction from a dig though.
Last edited by Todd Mitchell; May 21, 2020 at 10:48 PM.
thing knower
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From: wpb
make it shiny, sell it.... and buy a zr1.... probably would be about the difference in work / mods to make the same power reliably...
i started off poking fun, but then thought about it and its probably pretty close to the truth
or go get a yamaha r1 and let them chase you all over town
i started off poking fun, but then thought about it and its probably pretty close to the truth
or go get a yamaha r1 and let them chase you all over town
Last edited by drewz06; May 22, 2020 at 05:03 PM.
Drifting
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From: S.D. CA
and what if you have more HP? MMMMM. I just finished up some work and was up for a retune, just so happens they were base lining a 2007 ZO6 garage queen never touched completely stock, pulled 455 RWHP my 2006 LS2 486 RWHP 442 RWTQ, before I did the increase in compression a C& ZO6 jumped me outside Atlanta and he couldn't shake me.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: Miami Florida
Also leave out the turque converter bolts access grommet to help the heat get out.
Just heads and cam LS3
Burning Brakes
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Racer
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From: Houston TX
Yank makes a great budget street converter but they are hardly comparable to an FTI or any of the bolt together billet triple disks many other manufactures make for big power.
Burning Brakes
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