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Old May 13, 2020 | 06:17 PM
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Well on the drive home a couple modded camaros and z06 kept jacking with the ole stock C6 base. So I am done and want to get this car done ..
figure I am going
tsp or speed headers
stage 3 btr or stage 2 tsp ( unless other options )
trunion kit / roller
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yank / or circle D stall 2600-3000
just a street car. This is my final post/question wanting some sort of idea or plan when I go to builder and put car in shop.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
Well on the drive home a couple modded camaros and z06 kept jacking with the ole stock C6 base. So I am done and want to get this car done ..
figure I am going
tsp or speed headers
stage 3 btr or stage 2 tsp ( unless other options )
trunion kit / roller
tune
yank / or circle D stall 2600-3000
just a street car. This is my final post/question wanting some sort of idea or plan when I go to builder and put car in shop.
i tried making it a poll:
1) BTR CAMSHAFT - LS3 - N/A STAGE 2 - 32538133 Specs: 225/238 .612"/.585" 113+3

2)BTR CAMSHAFT - LS3 - N/A STAGE 3 - 32944134 Specs: 229/244 .615"/.595" 113+4 The LS3

3) Tsp stage 3 229/244 .629"/615" 112 LSA, 109 ICL

4) Cam motion stage 3 Grind # XA220/350-XA230/350-17+4 Duration at .050 - 220/230 with 1.7 - .595/.595 LSA 117 Intake center line 113
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Old May 13, 2020 | 06:31 PM
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It's going to cost a lot more than that to beat a Z06.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 06:42 PM
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Was worried that was coming lol. Well atleast hang and not get my but just drug
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Old May 13, 2020 | 07:07 PM
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If you're just going to drive it on the street and do a little stoplight grand prix, I think you'd be better off going with a power adder over the heads/cam route. Those cams you're looking at combined with that torque converter are going to kill your gas mileage, especially city mileage. Going with the supercharger could pay for itself over the cam/TC in gas savings.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 07:15 PM
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Not a big fan of the adders. But sort of figured mileage was going to go down. It going to be stop light dragging frequently. Guessing the smaller cam will be better and smaller stall. So the btr 2 with a 2600k. Nothing beats the chop of a nice vette but not chasing sound either.
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I'll put it this way: My heads/cammed C5 got 14 mpg on average.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 07:45 PM
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Well not doing heads. Figured with a small sized cam I should be upper teens or so
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small centri blower and tune. be done with it...and kick their asses...stock drivability too

(PS the term "modded" is quite vague...)

In that area, you'll always be getting gapped no matter how far you go, so let that one go, LOL...


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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
This is my final post/question wanting some sort of idea or plan when I go to builder and put car in shop.
You promise? I mean seriously, really promise????

Use the BTR stage two cam with their recommended valve train and trunnion upgrade. It won't kill your fuel eco.
Use anything but Tx Speed headers. Use 1.875" primaries. Your choice whether you use catted or non catted connector pipes. Won't make much difference power wise.
Use a quality 3200 rpm converter.
Use a Vararam CAI.
A ported and rod modded LS3 intake manifold would be a nice touch and help with the power on the top end.

You'll compete with a stock Z06. As to whether you can compete with anything "modded" depends totally on how much the other guys are willing to spend. The old "Speed costs money how fast do you want to go" thing applies here.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
i tried making it a poll:
1) BTR CAMSHAFT - LS3 - N/A STAGE 2 - 32538133 Specs: 225/238 .612"/.585" 113+3

2)BTR CAMSHAFT - LS3 - N/A STAGE 3 - 32944134 Specs: 229/244 .615"/.595" 113+4 The LS3

3) Tsp stage 3 229/244 .629"/615" 112 LSA, 109 ICL

4) Cam motion stage 3 Grind # XA220/350-XA230/350-17+4 Duration at .050 - 220/230 with 1.7 - .595/.595 LSA 117 Intake center line 113
that BTR stage 3 is a proven healthy powerwise cam with great chop and results around 470-490rwhp now that cam motion mild stage 3 is interesting because with a good solid tuner can hide that chop so that would put it in sleeper ode along with the Yank PAS 3400-3800 stall would kick the hell out of every stock C6 Z06 with 99.9% of the drivers cant "drive/race" that M6 anyway lmao also have researched that cam working well with superchargers and the ECS kit at 5500 seems to be the way to go regardless just a cam and stall will beat their asses and who buys a Vette for good gas mileage anyway hahahahahaha
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Old May 13, 2020 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
Well on the drive home a couple modded camaros and z06 kept jacking with the ole stock C6 base. So I am done and want to get this car done ..
figure I am going
tsp or speed headers
stage 3 btr or stage 2 tsp ( unless other options )
trunion kit / roller
tune
yank / or circle D stall 2600-3000
just a street car. This is my final post/question wanting some sort of idea or plan when I go to builder and put car in shop.
oh and what were the "mods" done to these Camaros and was the Z06 a C5/C6/C7 version? was it also modded?
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Old May 13, 2020 | 10:46 PM
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One Camaro I can’t and won’t **** with is a zl1 with a healthy cam and tune

other one is a z06 has headers and cam Tune manual car

Camaro ss 2012. Cam. Intake tune. Exhaust and he said internal work 🤷‍♂️

other is a Mustang gt. Exhaust and tune

just ran a stock ss with paper plates and got him from 30 roll
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Old May 13, 2020 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by old motorhead
You promise? I mean seriously, really promise????

Use the BTR stage two cam with their recommended valve train and trunnion upgrade. It won't kill your fuel eco.
Use anything but Tx Speed headers. Use 1.875" primaries. Your choice whether you use catted or non catted connector pipes. Won't make much difference power wise.
Use a quality 3200 rpm converter.
Use a Vararam CAI.
A ported and rod modded LS3 intake manifold would be a nice touch and help with the power on the top end.

You'll compete with a stock Z06. As to whether you can compete with anything "modded" depends totally on how much the other guys are willing to spend. The old "Speed costs money how fast do you want to go" thing applies here.
yeah promise. I am one to overthink and over research If it’s annoying to see me post so many times asking the same thing. I get it and do apologize.
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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
One Camaro I can’t and won’t **** with is a zl1 with a healthy cam and tune

other one is a z06 has headers and cam Tune manual car

Camaro ss 2012. Cam. Intake tune. Exhaust and he said internal work 🤷‍♂️

other is a Mustang gt. Exhaust and tune

just ran a stock ss with paper plates and got him from 30 roll
pick your battles just right and you can beat them all!!! 5th gen ZL1s are nowhere near as quick as their 6th gen versions and yes a cammed Z06 C6 version is gonna be fast a M6 the 5th gen camaro SS even with mods is not going to beat you now the 5.0 unless its a FBO A10 e85 car your gonna beat him to now heres what you have to do see if they are on a DR if not race ALL of them from like a dig to 30 roll you will beat them all expcially if they are M6 guys the excuses for their losses will get old but hey thats on them lol honestly get the stall and good tranny cooler along with a great tune and your car will not be touched by any FBO 5.0 or 6th gen its gonna take some serious HP cars to outrun you and again thats if their on DRs
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Old May 13, 2020 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
yeah promise. I am one to overthink and over research If it’s annoying to see me post so many times asking the same thing. I get it and do apologize.
man i understand your hesitance lol trying to decide which way to go mod wise especially if your not shitting money like 90% on this forum who buy their car to stuff in a garage until Haleys Comet appears then take it out for a spin is and can be a tough decision myself i will probably will buy either a ECS or Procharger kit but i want to chase the bolt ons record for nothing more than a personal goal there are a few members on here with real world experience and their info is golden but all and any input good or bad gives you options and things to think about so regardless of what you decide good luck to you sir and enjoy your drive it take care of it but dont worship it like its a collectors edition car lol
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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
Not a big fan of the adders. But sort of figured mileage was going to go down. It going to be stop light dragging frequently. Guessing the smaller cam will be better and smaller stall. So the btr 2 with a 2600k. Nothing beats the chop of a nice vette but not chasing sound either.
Your mileage will go down much more going with a big cam over a supercharger. If it is mostly stop light to stop light dragging, my vote is for a positive displacement supercharger. I have an E-force but knowing what I know now, I would go with a Magnuson Heartbeat (although I love my E-force. E-force needs a few cooling upgrades to keep IAT's down) . Get a tuner kit without injectors, add the size injector you want, and go to a 3.5 or 3.25 inch pulley, add a set of Kooks headers, and get a custom tune. Then the problem will be getting traction.
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Originally Posted by southofHoustonVette
One Camaro I can’t and won’t **** with is a zl1 with a healthy cam and tune

other one is a z06 has headers and cam Tune manual car

Camaro ss 2012. Cam. Intake tune. Exhaust and he said internal work 🤷‍♂️

other is a Mustang gt. Exhaust and tune

just ran a stock ss with paper plates and got him from 30 roll

your **** is stock why you racing them lol
i recently did texas speed ported heats, cam motion 219/230 cam 620" lift, pas3400 and it's a beast
recently spanked a kid in an ls7 cadillac from 30 roll. You does those mods you will beat all those cars you listed
from a 20-30 roll as long as you hook. I hook pretty good with 20" pirelli trofeo r tires.
You know what mods you need to do so why all the drama posts, lol
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Just know that no matter how fast you think you are, there's always someone faster. Spend 15 large on your rig and there's always someone who's spent 20. Also know that doing more than a little street racing is just dumb. It never ends well. If you're running around with a street hard on, you'd better be on drag radials and hope you don't have to take a curve at speed.

In one of your myriad earlier threads, you mentioned a fun street ride. That's where you need to be. Not chasing your tail trying to keep up with the street warriors.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 11:10 PM
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Solid advice fellas. Thanks for all the input.
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