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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 02:50 PM
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Actually, my car was braking great for my usage. I just changed it after 5 years because I figured it be a good idea. The point is that even after several years and 75k miles, changing the fluid didn't make any noticeable difference in the way my car braked.
I agree that brake fluid will not change how the car brakes. However, if anyone wants to see some amazing improvements in braking power, swap-out the stock brake lines for stainless steel brake lines on all 4 calipers. The stopping power will improve by orders of magnitude.
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I have found that using a vacuum pump to bleed brakes is a real problem. When you pull a vacuum on the pump at the caliper and open the bleeder screw air is drawn around the threads on the screw, pulling air in and failing to draw the fluid out of the lines. The best way I have found to bleed a system is to use the proven two-man method.
This was my experience also. I replaced all bleeder screws with speed bleeders. They work very well.

I haven't tried the Mityvac with the speed bleeders, I will have to give that a try.
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I agree that brake fluid will not change how the car brakes. However, if anyone wants to see some amazing improvements in braking power, swap-out the stock brake lines for stainless steel brake lines on all 4 calipers. The stopping power will improve by orders of magnitude.
The stainless lines are actually something that I've heard doesn't have a dramatic effect. So much of our experience with our cars is bias or placebo or a fluke (not the norm) that unless you try it for yourself you may never know.
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The stainless lines are actually something that I've heard doesn't have a dramatic effect. So much of our experience with our cars is bias or placebo or a fluke (not the norm) that unless you try it for yourself you may never know.
When I owned my 99 C5, I autocrossed the car several times a month. So, I was intimately aware of that car's braking performance. After installing the SS lines and taking the car out for several autocross weekends, the effectiveness of the cars brake performance was dramatically improved to the extent I had to re-acquaint myself with the cars braking characteristics. SS lines are by no means placebo or a fluke. It simple physics, and it works. I have every intention of installing SS lines on my C6 base coupe.
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Old Jun 25, 2020 | 02:57 PM
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All you need is speed bleeders from the auto parts store or E-Bay. Makes it a simple one man job.
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Originally Posted by PCMusicGuy
The stainless lines are actually something that I've heard doesn't have a dramatic effect. So much of our experience with our cars is bias or placebo or a fluke (not the norm) that unless you try it for yourself you may never know.

Depends, and if your old brake rubber lines are pressure ballooning every time you go to use the brakes, even new rubber lines will make a difference.

As for braided line, all depends on the braid line hose being used, since have seen cheap ones pressure balloon worse then oem rubber hoses.

Hence very good lines that will not pressure balloon,


While braided lines that will pressure balloon, since the braid outer is just decorative isntead.


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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 01:16 AM
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The clutch is the worst IMO, the seal near the flywheel is terrible and pulls the clutch dust is pulled into the fluid from the dust that collects on the rod. I have to change mine almost very track day. Brakes will discolor with high temps and moisture, brake fluid is hydro-scopic. It may too be the rubber in the flexible lines as well. All I know is that if you want to avoid trouble regular maintenance includes flushing this fluids. The Camaro was really bad, they shared a reservoir with clutch and brake, then the clutch dust worked their way into all the brakes lines/calipers.
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