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Going to pick the Vette up tomorrow after some new mods, previously was a head cam LS2 making 447hp /412tq .after adding a tony mamo ported fast 102 and a katech 103 in 90 + heat the ls2 still made substantial power.ver happy with the new found ponies thanks Tony.. Dyno graph below

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What Cam (Specs) & Heads?
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What Cam (Specs) & Heads?
Afr 205's 231/237 lift 591/ 601 lsa 112
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Was the previous dyno with stock ls2 intake?
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Was the previous dyno with stock ls2 intake?
Yes, apparently the ls2 intake is trash. Huge gains with the ported fast 102 and throttle body
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Originally Posted by joevette perdomo
Yes, apparently the ls2 intake is trash. Huge gains with the ported fast 102 and throttle body
I know, I have a MMS FAST 92 & LS2 TB leftover from my 99 ls1 Bolt ons prior to my custom 396 build/install.
Looking forward to putting it on my base 2007 with Z06 Exhaust Manifolds, Cats, & Borla X to keep the
Smog ***** happy here in Komiefornia LOL.

Are you still on the LS2 TB or NW 102?
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I know, I have a MMS FAST 92 & LS2 TB leftover from my 99 ls1 Bolt ons prior to my custom 396 build/install.
Looking forward to putting it on my base 2007 with Z06 Exhaust Manifolds, Cats, & Borla X to keep the
Smog ***** happy here in Komiefornia LOL.

Are you still on the LS2 TB or NW 102?
Hey , no I went with the katech 103 mm and yes that was done with the fast 102. Yes it's true that the stock ls2 manifold chokes the hell out of the 364 cu.
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Originally Posted by joevette perdomo
Yes, apparently the ls2 intake is trash. Huge gains with the ported fast 102 and throttle body

Uhhh ok. I made 750hp at 7psi with an non-ported oem LS2 intake manifold. Going to run the same on the current 403ci build which will be closer to 950hp. Plenty of fi cars running a LS2 intake manifold making big power.
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Uhhh ok. I made 750hp at 7psi with an non-ported oem LS2 intake manifold. Going to run the same on the current 403ci build which will be closer to 950hp. Plenty of fi cars running a LS2 intake manifold making big power.
Seems to be an epidemic of fi guys inserting irrelevant comments in NA threads on LS1 Tech as well.
As if there were not enough epidemics LOL.
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Seems to be an epidemic of fi guys inserting irrelevant comments in NA threads on LS1 Tech as well.
As if there were not enough epidemics LOL.
I merely made a post that shows how much more power the fast makes on particularly the ls2, and you gonna talk boosted to show how the manifold performs bahahaha there's countless posts on this topic which after research shows gains over the stock ls2 manifold I'm sure there will be more na guys that will chime in.
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Uhhh ok. I made 750hp at 7psi with an non-ported oem LS2 intake manifold. Going to run the same on the current 403ci build which will be closer to 950hp. Plenty of fi cars running a LS2 intake manifold making big power.
Add a ported FAST and pick up 50 at the wheels with no other changes.....the LS2 is almost the worst flowing cathedral manifold ever produced.....2nd only to the original LS1 intake that came out in 1997.

In fact it makes less power than an LS6 does in spite of the LS6 having a much smaller 78mm entrance versus the 90mm with the LS2

These are the facts proven time and time again in various independent dyno tests (the results in this thread comparing it to my ported FAST as another glaring example of just how bad it is)

Here is a very thorough intake manifold shoot out that once again shares the exact same information.....

Richard Holdener talks quickly about the LS2 intake right about 6 mins into this excellent informative manifold shoot out video

Few people have dyno'ed more LS combinations than Richard Holdener with the exception of Steve Brule from Westech Performance who is usually pulling the handle on the dyno during most of Richard's testing



Originally Posted by joevette perdomo
I merely made a post that shows how much more power the fast makes on particularly the ls2, and you gonna talk boosted to show how the manifold performs bahahaha there's countless posts on this topic which after research shows gains over the stock ls2 manifold I'm sure there will be more na guys that will chime in.
Joe.....In your response #12 above you "quoted" the wrong forum member here. Navy Blue knows just how bad the LS2 is


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Originally Posted by Tony @ Mamo Motorsports
Add a ported FAST and pick up 50 at the wheels with no other changes.....the LS2 is almost the worst flowing cathedral manifold ever produced.....2nd only to the original LS1 intake that came out in 1997.

In fact it makes less power than an LS6 does in spite of the LS6 having a much smaller 78mm entrance versus the 90mm with the LS2

These are the facts proven time and time again in various independent dyno tests (the results in this thread comparing it to my ported FAST as another glaring example of just how bad it is)

Here is a very thorough intake manifold shoot out that once again shares the exact same information.....

Richard Holdener talks quickly about the LS2 intake right about 6 mins into this excellent informative manifold shoot out video

Few people have dyno'ed more LS combinations than Richard Holdener with the exception of Steve Brule from Westech Performance who is usually pulling the handle on the dyno during most of Richard's testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejb...ichardHoldener




Joe.....In your response #12 above you "quoted" the wrong forum member here. Navy Blue knows just how bad the LS2 is


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That doesn't change the fact many FI builds have made plenty of hp on a ls2 intake manifold now does it?

My response was addressing the negative ie incorrect comments regarding the LS2 im.
It flows well enough to make 800+hp...750hp on my C6 that was tuned conservatively by...wait for it...WESTECH!..at just 9psi.
I'd say it's anything but a pos that doesn't flow well. YMMV.

Are there other options? Certainly...for more $$...which the gains were minimal for the money on an FI car considering the risk. Ie FAST intakes have shown many times to fail under enough boost vs an LS2 im.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...s2-intake.html

It's ok to have different opinions and experiences tho.
Carry on.

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You can blow enough air through a garden hose to feed an LS2 if the compressor is big enough. Doesn't quite work that way when the LS2 is trying to suck enough air through the same garden hose. What works F/I has nothing to do with the needs of a naturally aspirated engine.
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Originally Posted by joevette perdomo
Yes, apparently the ls2 intake is trash. Huge gains with the ported fast 102 and throttle body
Originally Posted by joevette perdomo
I merely made a post that shows how much more power the fast makes on particularly the ls2, and you gonna talk boosted to show how the manifold performs bahahaha there's countless posts on this topic which after research shows gains over the stock ls2 manifold I'm sure there will be more na guys that will chime in.
You made a claim "the ls2 manifold is trash".
I refuted that with facts..it's capable of waaaaaay more power (and tq) and works well for many of us.
"Gains" over xx product in ONE application on a 6.0L is hardly "trash" lmao!
Need to see the graph showing showing an increase of 350bhp/225tq on an LS2 manifold? Trash.

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Yes tony I caught that and thanks for all your input and extensive work you put into your porting and testing, the gains are really substantial on my build and really pleased I did business with you. Cheers from Jacksonville.
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Originally Posted by DSOMC6
That doesn't change the fact many FI builds have made plenty of hp on a ls2 intake manifold now does it?

My response was addressing the negative ie incorrect comments regarding the LS2 im.
It flows well enough to make 800+hp...750hp on my C6 that was tuned conservatively by...wait for it...WESTECH!..at just 9psi.
I'd say it's anything but a pos that doesn't flow well. YMMV.

Are there other options? Certainly...for more $$...which the gains were minimal for the money on an FI car considering the risk. Ie FAST intakes have shown many times to fail under enough boost vs an LS2 im.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...s2-intake.html

It's ok to have different opinions and experiences tho.
Carry on.
not incorrect from my Dyno sheet, in fact it's proven on numerous threads didn't mean to get your panties in a wad. Just because you made decent power with a blower does not compare to my situation.
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not incorrect from my Dyno sheet, in fact it's proven on numerous threads didn't mean to get your panties in a wad. Just because you made decent power with a blower does not compare to my situation.
Your statement "LS2 intake manifold is trash" cannot be backed-up.....An intake capable of making 900hp. Not to mention 500ftlbs of tq at 2800rpms
Yeh...MY panties are in a bunch.
Good luck with your build.
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Originally Posted by DSOMC6
Your statement "LS2 intake manifold is trash" cannot be backed-up.....An intake capable of making 900hp. Not to mention 500ftlbs of tq at 2800rpms
Yeh...MY panties are in a bunch.
Good luck with your build.
Dude 20% of the posts in this NA results thread are you talking about your fi results!
How about "the LS2 Intake is TRASH in a NA Application/build"!
Happy Now?

Maybe stay in the FI & P&R Section where you/we can be Productive?
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