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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 03:40 AM
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Default Issue on install engine by the top

On my C6 mn6,
I'm reinstalling engine by the top cause no lift,
I have mantic triple disk, well centered,
I cannot engage completly the engine in the torque tube (need engage half a inch more),
I think everything is in line,
Any advice ?
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 04:33 PM
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I removed mine from the top last time….never again. Other than turning the spline a little to make sure it’s lined up, it’s just a matter of being perfectly straight. The last inch goes into the pilot bushing
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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
I removed mine from the top last time….never again. Other than turning the spline a little to make sure it’s lined up, it’s just a matter of being perfectly straight. The last inch goes into the pilot bushing
The last 1/2 inch i presume...
Just that i need to full engage...
So, i'm not in the pilot bearing, have the retry better
(And install lift in the garden or garage of the housse i'm buying lol)

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Steve@C56
The last 1/2 inch i presume...
Just that i need to full engage...
So, i'm not in the pilot bearing, have the retry better
(And install lift in the garden or garage of the housse i'm buying lol)

Thanks
I just check on the web
The normal LS pilot bearing seems to be 0.75 inch long
Curious to need just 0.5 inch to full engage
Have to mesure with precision (i speak about 1/2 inch approximatively)
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Originally Posted by Steve@C56
I just check on the web
The normal LS pilot bearing seems to be 0.75 inch long
Curious to need just 0.5 inch to full engage
Have to mesure with precision (i speak about 1/2 inch approximatively)
Having done this very same thing multiple times I can personally attest to the fact that mating up the engine with a manual trans car is just the worst. There's a great trick to make doing an automatic super simple but that's not the case with a manual. It's very easy to be underneath the car and be almost certain that everything is lined up correctly only to discover that moving things 1 or 2 degrees to the left, right, top or bottom and they'll slide together like butter.

Once you're certain that you're not dealing with a pilot bearing or some other clearance issue, my suggestion would be to have somebody man the jack while you're underneath the car. If you can get them that close then I've always been able to close the final gap by wiggling the engine while simultaneously sliding it backwards. Make sure to have a bellhousing bolt with you so that you can put at least one in finger tight to keep the motor and bellhousing from separating again.

Best of luck.
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Old Mar 13, 2024 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by subfloor@centurytrans
Having done this very same thing multiple times I can personally attest to the fact that mating up the engine with a manual trans car is just the worst. There's a great trick to make doing an automatic super simple but that's not the case with a manual. It's very easy to be underneath the car and be almost certain that everything is lined up correctly only to discover that moving things 1 or 2 degrees to the left, right, top or bottom and they'll slide together like butter.

Once you're certain that you're not dealing with a pilot bearing or some other clearance issue, my suggestion would be to have somebody man the jack while you're underneath the car. If you can get them that close then I've always been able to close the final gap by wiggling the engine while simultaneously sliding it backwards. Make sure to have a bellhousing bolt with you so that you can put at least one in finger tight to keep the motor and bellhousing from separating again.

Best of luck.
Thanks
I will try
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I know no one has suggested it, but definitely do NOT use bolts to pull it together! Unless you’ve done it by hand almost all the way and even then, super light touch on the ratchet/wrench. You can mess stuff up pretty easy by forcing it.

is the clutch disc centered up? If not, the input shaft won’t line up to the crank.

and I don’t think going from the bottom would have helped at this point.

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Originally Posted by Jfryjfry
Definitely do NOT use bolts to pull it together! Unless you’ve done it by hand almost all the way and even then, super light touch on the ratchet/wrench. You can mess stuff up pretty easy by forcing it.
Not sure if you were referring to my post but that's absolutely not what I was suggesting because doing that can easily break stuff.

What I was suggesting is that AFTER you've got the engine and bellhousing pulled together by hand, to install a bolt to keep them from coming apart again.
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Originally Posted by subfloor@centurytrans
Not sure if you were referring to my post but that's absolutely not what I was suggesting because doing that can easily break stuff.

What I was suggesting is that AFTER you've got the engine and bellhousing pulled together by hand, to install a bolt to keep them from coming apart again.
no, not referring to yours at all. In fact i didn’t want anyone to think that so I was editing mine as you responded to it.

sorry for the confusion.
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Thanks all of us to help me to not do mistake !
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