C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Will theC6 ave colum lock problems?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 23, 2004 | 08:34 PM
  #1  
SEA6's Avatar
SEA6
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Lake County Sunny Central Florida.....
Default Will theC6 ave column lock problems?

Does anyone have any idea how the C6 will handel the column
lock?


[Modified by SEA6, 7:50 PM 5/23/2004]
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 10:49 AM
  #2  
wwashing's Avatar
wwashing
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 6,269
Likes: 1
From: Richmond Ca
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (SEA6)

ANswering the title question, Probably.

The hints are, they have not fixed the issue on the C5, in spite of all the unhappiness and complaints of the customers.

The A4 continues without the lock, meaning that they still feel they have an issue. :mad

In a work, no!


[Modified by wwashing, 7:50 AM 5/24/2004]
Reply
Old May 24, 2004 | 03:55 PM
  #3  
WhiteDiamond's Avatar
WhiteDiamond
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,183
Likes: 85
From: Castle Rock CO
St. Jude Donor '15
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (wwashing)

It is sad that GM has paid enough attention to this forum to actually look at a replacement front plate setup for the C6, but they cannot get a engineering team together to fix a problem that plaques ALL C5 MODEL years and the aftermarket actually came up with a bypass for. GM has the ability to become a good auto maker, but they refuse too......Very strange. It is all in the percentages, guys, and the CL just doesn't fault in enough C5s, I guess....

I hope it is gone on the C6.

Todd
Reply
Old May 25, 2004 | 07:43 AM
  #4  
Scissors's Avatar
Scissors
☠☣☢ Semper Ebrius ☢☣☠
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 83,301
Likes: 4
From: Virginia
Cruise-In IV-V-VI-VII Veteran
St. Jude's Donor '06
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (BLK 98WS6)

It is sad that GM has paid enough attention to this forum to actually look at a replacement front plate setup for the C6, but they cannot get a engineering team together to fix a problem that plaques ALL C5 MODEL years and the aftermarket actually came up with a bypass for. GM has the ability to become a good auto maker, but they refuse too......Very strange. It is all in the percentages, guys, and the CL just doesn't fault in enough C5s, I guess....
I'll assume that you tried to research before speaking and simply didn't find anything.

GM uses a column lock bypass on the A4 'Vettes. They have to keep in on the M6 'Vettes because they have to have some form of theft protection. On the A4, this protection is provided by the transmissions lockout. But a manual can be shifted even without a key.
Reply
Old May 25, 2004 | 09:32 AM
  #5  
SEA6's Avatar
SEA6
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Lake County Sunny Central Florida.....
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (Scissors)

I'll assume that you tried to research before speaking and simply didn't find anything.

GM uses a column lock bypass on the A4 'Vettes. They have to keep in on the M6 'Vettes because they have to have some form of theft protection. On the A4, this protection is provided by the transmissions lockout. But a manual can be shifted even without a key.
The question was NOT will it have a column lock, BUT will it have a column
lock PROBLEM. I guess what I was wondering is since the C6 redesigned
did GM also redesign the column lock design. It would be hard to believe
they wouldn't, but there track record in such matters isn't real good.

I had a 2001 A4 Vert and the column lock was NOT INSTALLED not just
bypassed.......
Reply
Old May 25, 2004 | 10:55 AM
  #6  
WhiteDiamond's Avatar
WhiteDiamond
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,183
Likes: 85
From: Castle Rock CO
St. Jude Donor '15
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (Scissors)

I'll assume that you tried to research before speaking and simply didn't find anything.
Well, after several years on this board, I have never seen GM address the CL issue on the 6 speed cars(other than a recall to have a shut down circuit installed for the fuel pump if the CL is locked). Even more interesting is the fact they did not FIX it on the A4 cars, but simply eliminated it. I have heard nothing about CL for the C6, so I remain hopeful it is gone altogether. I disagree that the CL is needed for theft deterance, as there are plenty of ways to accomplish this in the modern vehicle and there is probably a way to make the CL work correctly, GM doesn't want to spend the money or time on it.

Todd
Reply
Old May 25, 2004 | 12:08 PM
  #7  
Scissors's Avatar
Scissors
☠☣☢ Semper Ebrius ☢☣☠
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 83,301
Likes: 4
From: Virginia
Cruise-In IV-V-VI-VII Veteran
St. Jude's Donor '06
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (SEA6)

The question was NOT will it have a column lock, BUT will it have a column lock PROBLEM.
Yes, yes...we all got that. But I wasn't addressing you, I was responding to someone else. Thus my quote.
Reply
Old May 25, 2004 | 12:10 PM
  #8  
Scissors's Avatar
Scissors
☠☣☢ Semper Ebrius ☢☣☠
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 83,301
Likes: 4
From: Virginia
Cruise-In IV-V-VI-VII Veteran
St. Jude's Donor '06
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (BLK 98WS6)

Well, after several years on this board, I have never seen GM address the CL issue on the 6 speed cars(other than a recall to have a shut down circuit installed for the fuel pump if the CL is locked).
They addressed it a long time ago. All of the C5s within a certain range were recalled by GM for a replacement column lock. Of course, it still didn't work in all of the fixed cars, but it did take care of most of them.

Even more interesting is the fact they did not FIX it on the A4 cars, but simply eliminated it.
...which fixes the problem, if not the part. Probably because it was cheaper to fix it once than to "fix" it twice.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 25, 2004 | 06:07 PM
  #9  
WhiteDiamond's Avatar
WhiteDiamond
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,183
Likes: 85
From: Castle Rock CO
St. Jude Donor '15
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (Scissors)


They addressed it a long time ago. All of the C5s within a certain range were recalled by GM for a replacement column lock. Of course, it still didn't work in all of the fixed cars, but it did take care of most of them.
The only TSB in the loop for the column lock right now is a addition of a circuit to make sure the fuel pump is shut off if the column lock is not deactivated. I do not consider that a fix. That is simply GM finding a very simple route to ignore something. The recall on the column lock before that appears to have only benifitted automatic equipped cars, so the question remains for those with M6 desires.

Todd
Reply
Old May 29, 2004 | 04:45 PM
  #10  
2000 green hornet's Avatar
2000 green hornet
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 790
Likes: 0
From: meraux louisiana
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (SEA6)

is general motors still general motors? i remember my 1984 trans am with the high performance chevrolet motor . the block cracked at 3400 miles. it had 4 wheel disc brakes that wouldnt self adjust and i had to bring it to my mechanic and have him adjust them ever 1500 miles or the car wouldnt stop. and what about the flywheel with cracked teeth that stopped my car from starting every so often. took them 30000 miles to find that. and then my 2000 vette with a locked column that prevented the car from being turned out of my driveway! come on. how many years did it take for GM to issue a recall? 6??????? hee hee . wonder whats new waiting down the pike. but damn i love my vette so much when i hit the gas i am sure a c6 is not far away.... :flag
Reply
Old May 29, 2004 | 04:47 PM
  #11  
2000 green hornet's Avatar
2000 green hornet
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 790
Likes: 0
From: meraux louisiana
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (SEA6)

sorry . should have posted this in the last post. dave hill. are u there?
Reply
Old May 31, 2004 | 08:31 AM
  #12  
AFVETTE's Avatar
AFVETTE
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 20,054
Likes: 44
From: Swansea IL
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (SEA6)

If the C6 doesn't cure once and for good all of the C5's nagging problems shame on them.

Of course that will just give folks the ammo they need to continue to say the C6 is really just a C5.5.

Did we get a C6 or a C5.5?

Tom


[Modified by AFVETTE, 7:32 AM 5/31/2004]
Reply
Old May 31, 2004 | 10:13 AM
  #13  
Scissors's Avatar
Scissors
☠☣☢ Semper Ebrius ☢☣☠
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 83,301
Likes: 4
From: Virginia
Cruise-In IV-V-VI-VII Veteran
St. Jude's Donor '06
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (AFVETTE)

Dave Hill specifically stated at CI-V that they have finally gone to another manufacturer for the C6's column lock mechanism.
Reply
Old May 31, 2004 | 10:46 AM
  #14  
SEA6's Avatar
SEA6
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Lake County Sunny Central Florida.....
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (Scissors)

Dave Hill specifically stated at CI-V that they have finally gone to another manufacturer for the C6's column lock mechanism.
Thanks Scissors.... Thats what I was hoping would happen, one thing less
to worry about....
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2004 | 04:40 PM
  #15  
jimman's Avatar
jimman
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 7,695
Likes: 51
From: Imperial Beach CA
Default Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (SEA6)

does anyone know of all of the C5's produced, how many have had the lock problem and had to have it fixed or bypassed?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Will theC6 ave colum lock problems?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:20 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE