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Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (wwashing)
It is sad that GM has paid enough attention to this forum to actually look at a replacement front plate setup for the C6, but they cannot get a engineering team together to fix a problem that plaques ALL C5 MODEL years and the aftermarket actually came up with a bypass for. GM has the ability to become a good auto maker, but they refuse too......Very strange. It is all in the percentages, guys, and the CL just doesn't fault in enough C5s, I guess....
Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (BLK 98WS6)
It is sad that GM has paid enough attention to this forum to actually look at a replacement front plate setup for the C6, but they cannot get a engineering team together to fix a problem that plaques ALL C5 MODEL years and the aftermarket actually came up with a bypass for. GM has the ability to become a good auto maker, but they refuse too......Very strange. It is all in the percentages, guys, and the CL just doesn't fault in enough C5s, I guess....
I'll assume that you tried to research before speaking and simply didn't find anything.
GM uses a column lock bypass on the A4 'Vettes. They have to keep in on the M6 'Vettes because they have to have some form of theft protection. On the A4, this protection is provided by the transmissions lockout. But a manual can be shifted even without a key.
Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (Scissors)
I'll assume that you tried to research before speaking and simply didn't find anything.
GM uses a column lock bypass on the A4 'Vettes. They have to keep in on the M6 'Vettes because they have to have some form of theft protection. On the A4, this protection is provided by the transmissions lockout. But a manual can be shifted even without a key.
The question was NOT will it have a column lock, BUT will it have a column
lock PROBLEM. I guess what I was wondering is since the C6 redesigned
did GM also redesign the column lock design. It would be hard to believe
they wouldn't, but there track record in such matters isn't real good.
I had a 2001 A4 Vert and the column lock was NOT INSTALLED not just
bypassed.......
Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (Scissors)
I'll assume that you tried to research before speaking and simply didn't find anything.
Well, after several years on this board, I have never seen GM address the CL issue on the 6 speed cars(other than a recall to have a shut down circuit installed for the fuel pump if the CL is locked). Even more interesting is the fact they did not FIX it on the A4 cars, but simply eliminated it. I have heard nothing about CL for the C6, so I remain hopeful it is gone altogether. I disagree that the CL is needed for theft deterance, as there are plenty of ways to accomplish this in the modern vehicle and there is probably a way to make the CL work correctly, GM doesn't want to spend the money or time on it.
Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (BLK 98WS6)
Well, after several years on this board, I have never seen GM address the CL issue on the 6 speed cars(other than a recall to have a shut down circuit installed for the fuel pump if the CL is locked).
They addressed it a long time ago. All of the C5s within a certain range were recalled by GM for a replacement column lock. Of course, it still didn't work in all of the fixed cars, but it did take care of most of them.
Even more interesting is the fact they did not FIX it on the A4 cars, but simply eliminated it.
...which fixes the problem, if not the part. Probably because it was cheaper to fix it once than to "fix" it twice.
Re: Will theC6 ave column lock problems? (Scissors)
They addressed it a long time ago. All of the C5s within a certain range were recalled by GM for a replacement column lock. Of course, it still didn't work in all of the fixed cars, but it did take care of most of them.
The only TSB in the loop for the column lock right now is a addition of a circuit to make sure the fuel pump is shut off if the column lock is not deactivated. I do not consider that a fix. That is simply GM finding a very simple route to ignore something. The recall on the column lock before that appears to have only benifitted automatic equipped cars, so the question remains for those with M6 desires.
is general motors still general motors? i remember my 1984 trans am with the high performance chevrolet motor . the block cracked at 3400 miles. it had 4 wheel disc brakes that wouldnt self adjust and i had to bring it to my mechanic and have him adjust them ever 1500 miles or the car wouldnt stop. and what about the flywheel with cracked teeth that stopped my car from starting every so often. took them 30000 miles to find that. and then my 2000 vette with a locked column that prevented the car from being turned out of my driveway! come on. how many years did it take for GM to issue a recall? 6??????? hee hee . wonder whats new waiting down the pike. but damn i love my vette so much when i hit the gas i am sure a c6 is not far away.... :flag