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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Do any of you PCM mavens know of any and what differences there are between C-5 and C-6 PCM's?? Will there be tuning issues? Thanks

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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Do any of you PCM mavens know of any and what differences there are between C-5 and C-6 PCM's?? Will there be tuning issues? Thanks

Completely new PCM and much faster. There is currently no way for C6 mod's to be tuned.

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Was able to read the computer of my C6 yesterday. Might be the first read done. Was helped by the good folks that make the EASE software and John Rovner.
Took the laptop and did a run last night up to 130.
I think the big thing we took away from the test was that bolt-ons for the C6 won't give ya much until you can flash the computer. That software is not available now.
I guess the question would be "when" will an LS2Edit be avaliable?

Your guess is as good as mine on that one.

Some of the graphs of the run are posted on another forum.

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Was able to read the computer of my C6 yesterday.
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Could you link the forum or give some info on timing events in the upper RPM range?

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Could you link the forum or give some info on timing events in the upper RPM range?

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Here is the link:

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THANK YOU!!! That shows a lot of what some have speculated about on this board. When GM announced how much torque was available over such a huge portion of the rpm range, it seemed very likely timing was used to reduce the know behavior the 2001 LS6 cam. Your timing is very low compared to the LS1/LS6 calibrations. It will be very interesting to see what numbers a stock LS2 makes when a good tuner has a chance to just optimize the PCM calibration.

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Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond
THANK YOU!!! That shows a lot of what some have speculated about on this board. When GM announced how much torque was available over such a huge portion of the rpm range, it seemed very likely timing was used to reduce the know behavior the 2001 LS6 cam. Your timing is very low compared to the LS1/LS6 calibrations. It will be very interesting to see what numbers a stock LS2 makes when a good tuner has a chance to just optimize the PCM calibration.

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I think there is some good hp available if we ever get the software to do a flash. That I don't see in the very near future. Hope an LS2Edit does show up by spring.
Right now Water Injection looks like it might be a good option where a tune won't be needed and some hp can be gained.
The "bolt-ons" don't look like they will give ya much of anything, and maybe even a loss.
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Bob
I think there is some good hp available if we ever get the software to do a flash. That I don't see in the very near future. Hope an LS2Edit does show up by spring.
Right now Water Injection looks like it might be a good option where a tune won't be needed and some hp can be gained.
The "bolt-ons" don't look like they will give ya much of anything, and maybe even a loss.

So you're saying that an intake and longtube headers won't give me the performance increase until I get an edit. I thought others have seen nice gains with these two mods on their C6. I'm new on these performance upgrades so trying to get as much info as possible. Thanks.

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So you're saying that an intake and longtube headers won't give me the performance increase until I get an edit. I thought others have seen nice gains with these two mods on their C6. I'm new on these performance upgrades so trying to get as much info as possible. Thanks.

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If you slap mods on the C6/LS2 like big nitros injection, headers, or intake, they will all will have an impact on a already too lean condition which will effect knock, which will effect timing and torque.

Do what you please but I'm waiting for the ability to flash the LS2 computer.

Water Injection will be the only add-on I will use for the present time.

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Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond
Completely new PCM and much faster. There is currently no way for C6 mod's to be tuned.

Todd
That may not be completely true since in theory, a MAFT should work on the C6 which will allow you to tune the mixture at least. Not true "tuning" of course, but at least it might allow you to address needed changed in A/F ratio. As far as I know, no one has tried it to "prove" this theory that the MAFT's work on the LS2.

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A friend of mine is Keith @ HPTuners.com and they are planning to release LS2'ware in January.

LS2 is a different pcm and harness. The crank sensor is 60x and the LS1 is 48x.
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Bob
If you slap mods on the C6/LS2 like big nitros injection, headers, or intake, they will all will have an impact on a already too lean condition which will effect knock, which will effect timing and torque.

Do what you please but I'm waiting for the ability to flash the LS2 computer.

Water Injection will be the only add-on I will use for the present time.

Bob
What is water injection & what does it do?
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