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This question may have been asked and answered, but I didn't see it. I just purchased a 2017 GS and while I haven't had much nice weather to enjoy it, I know from past experience I will want to add more power. I have heard that with 2017 models cracking the ECU for tuning is more difficult or even next to impossible. Is that the case? Or can one proceed expecting similar results as what folks had with their 2013-2016? Thanks in advance.
We have already done several '17 GS models using our A&A SC kit and they work great!
HPTuners required us to be connected to WIFI when we did the initial read of the tune file and it does cost an extra $100 to unlock the VIN compared to pre-'17 files. It's not difficult or impossible, just one extra hoop to jump through. Once we did that we could tune as usual.
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i am in the market for a kit but kinda undecided on the kit .... Procharger sounds very good with the blow off valve but I know it does have a lag .... What's out there that I can make 600rwhp with just long tubes and exhaust without touching my fuel system upgrade
As far as Centri blower's, I prefer Procharger. PD blowers I like Whipple. Everyone has their preferences, and reasons behind what they like. If you properly size a centrifugal supercharger, and spin it in its efficiency range you will not have lag. If you go with a PD unit, use the best heat exchanger system possible... Due to the power curve differences between the two types, Centri blowers are a little easier on drivetrain and traction IMO.
I picked up a new A&A kit for an awesome price! Seems to be one of the best systems on the market but all of the others are good as well. Shooting for 600whp with Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers, 3" x pipe, and Corsa Extreme Axleback. Do y'all think a 3.6" pulley is a good choice or should I wait until I get some fuel upgrades done?
I picked up a new A&A kit for an awesome price! Seems to be one of the best systems on the market but all of the others are good as well. Shooting for 600whp with Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers, 3" x pipe, and Corsa Extreme Axleback. Do y'all think a 3.6" pulley is a good choice or should I wait until I get some fuel upgrades done?
you should run meth also with the 3.6 pulley. 10 ish psi and no meth isn't something I'd do.
you should run meth also with the 3.6 pulley. 10 ish psi and no meth isn't something I'd do.
I have on the car now the A/A TI set up got to get the meth onto the car. I also am running the 3.6 pulley no way I would run this on my stock block without the meth.
I got all my stuff from Josh from A/A to much I think for no meth plus was told that from them. I will pull back timing on the car to hold it someplace from 650 to 675 rwhp. Robert
I have on the car now the A/A TI set up got to get the meth onto the car. I also am running the 3.6 pulley no way I would run this on my stock block without the meth.
I got all my stuff from Josh from A/A to much I think for no meth plus was told that from them. I will pull back timing on the car to hold it someplace from 650 to 675 rwhp. Robert
To be honest, if I were to go to the 3.6 pulley, I'd make sure the fuel is there to feed the motor and also built internally. I'm not a fan of meth because I think of it as a band-aid fix versus a permanent solution.
Centrifugal Superchargers
Centrifugal superchargers are all very similar BUT ECS kits have a feature which others don't have which is the restrictor plate. The restrictor plate allows the car to have a lower TQ & HP curve than other Centrigual superchargers. A&A is the only centrifugal kit which is 50 State legal if smog is an issue for you. Procharger is the only one of the 3 which includes a tune. A&A uses Vortech Supercharger Head Units where as ECS uses Paxton... Paxton is owned by Vortech. Procharger is it's own brand. Benefits of a centrifugal supercharger over Positive Displacement superchargers for the C7 are they are cheaper, easier to install, make more top end HP, and are more traction friendly from the launch.
(PD)Positive Displacement/ Twin Screw/ TVS Superchargers
These units are what is installed in cars from factory for couple of reasons. #1-They generate more lowend TQ which is perfect for day to day driving. #2-They are generally have less maintenance issues than a centrifugal SC over the long run BUT I can honestly say I have NEVER had an issue with a ECS, A&A, or Procharger for ANY model year vehicle. One of the main issues of centrifugal superchargers in the past was belts getting chewed up but A&A and ECS have done an amazing job in designing brackets which eliminate that. The Edelbrock and Magnuson are both 50 State Smog legal. They also tend to look more OEM and factory like. The cons to a PD blower is they are more expensive, make less top end HP, and they can REALLY roast your tires in 1st gear
So when deciding which kit is right for you... the main thing you have to decide is "what type of driving you like to do?" Both types are a blast... they just feel and perform different
What setup would you recommend for this?
I'd like to add more HP but I don't need anything crazy. I want to stay where it's fun to drive and not a chore to keep traction. Also reliability is a concern. I'm probably one of the few that would be ok turning down the power to make both of these two requests happen.
I'd like to add more HP but I don't need anything crazy. I want to stay where it's fun to drive and not a chore to keep traction. Also reliability is a concern. I'm probably one of the few that would be ok turning down the power to make both of these two requests happen.
You can't go wrong with our A&A SC Kit. You retain stock drivability and gain over 150-175 rwhp. You can make the same rwhp of a new Z06 for a fraction of the cost.
Our kit fits under stock hood and most people don't even know you have the SC unless you rev it up to make the blow off valve whoosh.
Our SC kit is less money than the Top mount blower kits. And if you like to attend car shows you will have plenty of attention when people stop by to see the Polished supercharger under the hood.
You can't go wrong with our A&A SC Kit. You retain stock drivability and gain over 150-175 rwhp. You can make the same rwhp of a new Z06 for a fraction of the cost.
Our kit fits under stock hood and most people don't even know you have the SC unless you rev it up to make the blow off valve whoosh.
Our SC kit is less money than the Top mount blower kits. And if you like to attend car shows you will have plenty of attention when people stop by to see the Polished supercharger under the hood.
Thanks!
Do you have a nonpolished version? I come from a different world in car tuning with imports so the next question may seem dumb. Can the stock components handle another 150hp without sacrificing reliability?
Do you have a nonpolished version? I come from a different world in car tuning with imports so the next question may seem dumb. Can the stock components handle another 150hp without sacrificing reliability?
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Do you have a nonpolished version? I come from a different world in car tuning with imports so the next question may seem dumb. Can the stock components handle another 150hp without sacrificing reliability?
Of course we also have the Blacked Out version. And yes these cars can handle the 150 rwhp gain and still be a fun reliable setup.
Let’s say I want to just add 100 WHP. I think the GS at 500 to 525ish WHP will be perfect on a road course. I don’t want to open up the engine. I will probably just add longtubes and call it a day. However, sitting hear reading the forum, I comment to my wife how easy it is to add power with a SC. She said I want one, but you can go first lol. So it got me thinking, are there any low boost kits that can be configured for hard track use on pump gas? Would it be possible to run 4 or 5 pounds of boost with say the Procharger set up with Horizontal Intercooler?
Let’s say I want to just add 100 WHP. I think the GS at 500 to 525ish WHP will be perfect on a road course. I don’t want to open up the engine. I will probably just add longtubes and call it a day. However, sitting hear reading the forum, I comment to my wife how easy it is to add power with a SC. She said I want one, but you can go first lol. So it got me thinking, are there any low boost kits that can be configured for hard track use on pump gas? Would it be possible to run 4 or 5 pounds of boost with say the Procharger set up with Horizontal Intercooler?
For both cost and performance, our LT4 conversion kit is hard to beat for your application.
I'm all for centrifugal superchargers, but on a road course car a positive displacement supercharger is hard to beat. The PD supercharger will generate more torque in the lower rpm range, allowing you to accelerate out of the apex faster than a centri supercharged car with comparable horsepower output.
The pulley combination to make 500-525rwhp on a centrifugal supercharger like a Procharger P1SC on a C7 would place your powerband in a higher rpm, resulting in what guys describe as "lag".
I'm a fan of almost all the different types of power adders in the aftermarket world, but I don't think there is a definitive answer of what is best. We should view superchargers, turbos, nitrous, etc.. similar to how we view tires; what best fits your application.
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i am in the market for a kit but kinda undecided on the kit .... Procharger sounds very good with the blow off valve but I know it does have a lag .... What's out there that I can make 600rwhp with just long tubes and exhaust without touching my fuel system upgrade
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I'd like to add more HP but I don't need anything crazy. I want to stay where it's fun to drive and not a chore to keep traction. Also reliability is a concern. I'm probably one of the few that would be ok turning down the power to make both of these two requests happen.
Reliability is NOT an issue.. we've EASILY sold over a 100 A&A supercharger kits to Vette owners over the last 2 years with no issues..... Only issues which ever come about is when people want to push it pass reasonable limits
Ok I am getting bored with my stock power, 2015 Z51 A8 Stingray. Thinking about getting a SC kit, not sure which one yet though,still looking at all the options. My question is, will my A8 hold up, these trannys are $$$ to repair.
I have a Procharger D1SC with a 10 rib belt, Kooks headers and X pipe with cat delete. 562 RWHP. No lag at all, I don't now who told you there was lag but it is instant power! I just Love it.
03-03-2017, 05:43 PM
I have on the car now the A/A TI set up got to get the meth onto the car. I also am running the 3.6 pulley no way I would run this on my stock block without the meth.
