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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GrampZ
Agreed. But neither Delphi or GM posted this.

These folks did: http://www.soldiersofsolidarity.com/

I know ... that's why I said:
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I highly doubt Delphi or GM would have released this information publicly .... whoever is plastering it on the internet may be subject to some legal action if they catch wind of such action.
"They" in the quote above referes to GM or Dephi.

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Less than 2600-2700 lbs can be and has been achieved with current technology.
Mosler produces a road car that weighs in at 2450 lbs.
This includes AC, electric locks, electric windows, am/fm/cd stereo and an LS7. Seems to me that GM could produce a plush ride with an additional 150-250 lbs. Give them 350 lbs and you still have 2800 lbs vehicle. At 3000 lbs, an additional 550 lbs, you could have dual clutch and 4 wheel drive and whatever else. I seem to recall that one of GM's manager types stated that Mosler's approach was the future for Corvette.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Less than 2600-2700 lbs can be and has been achieved with current technology.
Mosler produces a road car that weighs in at 2450 lbs.
This includes AC, electric locks, electric windows, am/fm/cd stereo and an LS7. Seems to me that GM could produce a plush ride with an additional 150-250 lbs. Give them 350 lbs and you still have 2800 lbs vehicle. At 3000 lbs, an additional 550 lbs, you could have dual clutch and 4 wheel drive and whatever else. I seem to recall that one of GM's manager types stated that Mosler's approach was the future for Corvette.

#1 That is a dry weight. No fuel, no fluids. You can add about 200 to that just for fluids.

#2 Also has Dymag wheels, which cost a fortune, or OZ/Work wheels, which cost not too much less and save tons of weight.

#3 Does not have the full array of airbags, or power seats, or all the other luxuries that vette owners crave.

#4 No storage space at all.

#5 Costs $330k, granted they are small time, but they still have more than the ~ $50k that Chevy has to build a corvette.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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It should be pointed out that the DI V6 going into the base Camaro is right at 300HP - about where the LT1 was 10-12 years ago.

In a Corvette, you could lose front end weight, overall vehicle weight and have a smaller powertrain package to design around.

I'm not advocating abandoning V8s but just saying - there's a lot to like about a smaller package. Nissan isn't doing too bad with the twinturbo 6 they are stomping the world with in the GTR.
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Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller
It should be pointed out that the DI V6 going into the base Camaro is right at 300HP - about where the LT1 was 10-12 years ago.

In a Corvette, you could lose front end weight, overall vehicle weight and have a smaller powertrain package to design around.

I'm not advocating abandoning V8s but just saying - there's a lot to like about a smaller package. Nissan isn't doing too bad with the twinturbo 6 they are stomping the world with in the GTR.
I would venture a guess that the DOHC DI V-6 is not lighter than the LSX engine in the Corvette. If it is, I would say less than 50 pounds lighter. The DOHC drivetrain adds significant weight, and volume.
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