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From page 10 of the pdf file (page 4 of the report):
"GM produced a limited number of stamped Mg hoods for the 1952 Corvette."
On a more serious note...
From page 5 of the report: "The perception that Mg is flammable."
From page 10 of the report under "Research Objectives": "Reduce concerns about fire."
And the response under "Perceived Needs": "Perform marketing and education to show that magnesium components do not burn like Mg ribbons."
From page 29 of the report: "Provide information and/or facilities for educational outreach to educators/students (from K-12 through graduate school) and to consumers, OEMs, suppliers and government including authoritative information addressing misconceptions about magnesium’s flammability."
And in the Summary on page 32 of the report: "The challenges that limit growth have been examined in this document based on concerns that magnesium burns easily..."
Sounds like their strategy for addressing the flammability of magnesium is to just say it doesn't exist. Yet the FAA doesn't allow magnesium in the cabin of commercial planes due to its real (not perceived) flammability.
http://www.magnesium-elektron.com/ne...icle.asp?ID=38
After all the detail they gave concerning corrosion control, it seems like they could have given a few tidbits of the new magnesium alloys and coatings that reduce the chances of burning to zero as noted in the link above. The public does have a perception that all magnesium burns easliy based on the impressive display of the burning magnesium strip in high school chemistry. I wish them luck in changing public perception...it's going to take some equally impressive displays of non-flammable magnesium inside car cabins. Hopefully, the FAA will approve these new alloys/coating to pave the way for their use inside cars.
Enjoyed the article as usual, thanks.
Edit: Just saw your link was from a meeting Dec '04 and released Nov '06...almost four years ago. No wonder they didn't mention FAA approval.
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The article shows promising results for the extended use of magnesium to reduce the weight of cars to improve performance and MPG.
From page 10 of the pdf file (page 4 of the report):
"GM produced a limited number of stamped Mg hoods for the 1952 Corvette."
On a more serious note...
From page 5 of the report: "The perception that Mg is flammable."
From page 10 of the report under "Research Objectives": "Reduce concerns about fire."
And the response under "Perceived Needs": "Perform marketing and education to show that magnesium components do not burn like Mg ribbons."
From page 29 of the report: "Provide information and/or facilities for educational outreach to educators/students (from K-12 through graduate school) and to consumers, OEMs, suppliers and government including authoritative information addressing misconceptions about magnesium’s flammability."
And in the Summary on page 32 of the report: "The challenges that limit growth have been examined in this document based on concerns that magnesium burns easily..."
Sounds like their strategy for addressing the flammability of magnesium is to just say it doesn't exist. Yet the FAA doesn't allow magnesium in the cabin of commercial planes due to its real (not perceived) flammability.
http://www.magnesium-elektron.com/ne...icle.asp?ID=38
After all the detail they gave concerning corrosion control, it seems like they could have given a few tidbits of the new magnesium alloys and coatings that reduce the chances of burning to zero as noted in the link above. The public does have a perception that all magnesium burns easliy based on the impressive display of the burning magnesium strip in high school chemistry. I wish them luck in changing public perception...it's going to take some equally impressive displays of non-flammable magnesium inside car cabins. Hopefully, the FAA will approve these new alloys/coating to pave the way for their use inside cars.
Enjoyed the article as usual, thanks.
Edit: Just saw your link was from a meeting Dec '04 and released Nov '06...almost four years ago. No wonder they didn't mention FAA approval.
From page 10 of the pdf file (page 4 of the report):
"GM produced a limited number of stamped Mg hoods for the 1952 Corvette."
On a more serious note...
From page 5 of the report: "The perception that Mg is flammable."
From page 10 of the report under "Research Objectives": "Reduce concerns about fire."
And the response under "Perceived Needs": "Perform marketing and education to show that magnesium components do not burn like Mg ribbons."
From page 29 of the report: "Provide information and/or facilities for educational outreach to educators/students (from K-12 through graduate school) and to consumers, OEMs, suppliers and government including authoritative information addressing misconceptions about magnesium’s flammability."
And in the Summary on page 32 of the report: "The challenges that limit growth have been examined in this document based on concerns that magnesium burns easily..."
Sounds like their strategy for addressing the flammability of magnesium is to just say it doesn't exist. Yet the FAA doesn't allow magnesium in the cabin of commercial planes due to its real (not perceived) flammability.
http://www.magnesium-elektron.com/ne...icle.asp?ID=38
After all the detail they gave concerning corrosion control, it seems like they could have given a few tidbits of the new magnesium alloys and coatings that reduce the chances of burning to zero as noted in the link above. The public does have a perception that all magnesium burns easliy based on the impressive display of the burning magnesium strip in high school chemistry. I wish them luck in changing public perception...it's going to take some equally impressive displays of non-flammable magnesium inside car cabins. Hopefully, the FAA will approve these new alloys/coating to pave the way for their use inside cars.
Enjoyed the article as usual, thanks.
Edit: Just saw your link was from a meeting Dec '04 and released Nov '06...almost four years ago. No wonder they didn't mention FAA approval.
This is true(hoods were produced in 1952), and at least one(#056) of the 300 1953's made was shipped from Flint with the Mg hood.
Then, GM built the SS in 1957 that had the complete body in Mg. True, that it wasn't a Corvette available for sale to the public, but shows that the use of Mg as body panels has been around for a while.
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"GM produced a limited number of stamped Mg hoods for the 1952 Corvette."
This is true(hoods were produced in 1952), and at least one(#056) of the 300 1953's made was shipped from Flint with the Mg hood.
Then, GM built the SS in 1957 that had the complete body in Mg. True, that it wasn't a Corvette available for sale to the public, but shows that the use of Mg as body panels has been around for a while.
This is true(hoods were produced in 1952), and at least one(#056) of the 300 1953's made was shipped from Flint with the Mg hood.
Then, GM built the SS in 1957 that had the complete body in Mg. True, that it wasn't a Corvette available for sale to the public, but shows that the use of Mg as body panels has been around for a while.
How many "1952 corvettes" were produced ???
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Of course, none were. But there were no 1983 Corvettes produced either, or were there? The company that produced the magnesium hoods for the "1952" Corvette thought they were for a 1952 Corvette. Turns out the Corvette was actually a 1953 model year. Not the first time a project failed to meet it's deadline.
Another article on GM using stamped magnesium parts.
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indust...cars-1.1409900
Another article on GM using stamped magnesium parts.
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indust...cars-1.1409900
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