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The base Corvette should hit the market with at least 500hp. The Z06 will need 600hp and the ZR1 700hp. I think I will wait until the base model comes with 1000hp in two years, lol.
I seriously doubt that we'll ever see 1,000Hp ever. There is the capability of more Hp will result in better gas mileage with a very, very light foot but then there's a tipping point where the more Hp, the less mileage it'll get. The car's weight, drag coefficient, Hp, tires and many other things, all come into play for that tipping point. Now if they could get it off the ground completely...that tipping point would change a lot but somehow, the promised flying cars aren't anywhere in the forseeable future.
........ Now if they could get it off the ground completely...that tipping point would change a lot but somehow, the promised flying cars aren't anywhere in the forseeable future.
Don't get me started. I was promised in 1970 that we would have VTOL flying cars by 2000. Where are they you lying so and so's? I very disappointed in the scientists and engineers of the world. They have completely let us down.
Where is the long promised Moeller?
I wouls much rather have a affordable (price of a car) VTOL flying car I was promised, instead of the unpromised cell phones we have now. I would gladly give up my iPhone for a practical VTOL flying car.
Its de-stroked engine (305 ci) features an LS9 cylinder block, direct fuel injection, and the revised cylinder heads that will power the next production Corvette.
In addition, GM has variable valve timimg, variable displacement, a "new combustion system" , and stop and go running to play with.
Now if you add to that the new rumor that the C7 will use the existing 6.2lt displacement, you've got some idea of the trade offs an engineer can make, if the idiot who heads GM will leave them to their task.
By the by, the new high tech V6 in the recently announced Cad uses exhaust manifolds that are integral with the heads - whatever that means.
If the C7 cylinder heads are being used on an LS9 cylinder block, that would tend to indicate that the C7 will stick with a push rod design rather than moving to overhead cams. This will help to keep down the weight and size of the new motor, which I think is a good thing. I think it also means that the bore size will not be changing significantly.
There have been a lot of rumers floating around the past year or so about a 5.5L motor, but I think this got started when Corvette Racing de-stroked an LS7 to meet ALMS maximum displacement requrements. I'm not sure that necessarily means that the C7 will do the same. 6.2L seems to be a good size. I guess we'll see when the details are actually released.
Small scale cold fusion should have solved the power issue by now.
The computer controls shouls have solved the careening problem by now.
You must be an engineer to be defending their epic failure so strongly. They shattered childhood dreams that they induced. That is just plain mean.
So you would rather be driven around the sky by a computer than drive yourself around the streets in a Corvette? And I don't know about you, but I see computers hiccup regularly; I don't want them driving hoards of cars around any time soon.
So you would rather be driven around the sky by a computer than drive yourself around the streets in a Corvette? And I don't know about you, but I see computers hiccup regularly; I don't want them driving hoards of cars around any time soon.
I want both. It's a childhood dream promised by engineers. The computers would assist not replace. Any modern fighter jet has a lot of computer assitance, or they would not fly, they would tuble out of control. A forward swept wing design is inherently unstable but produce a very agile craft. Ask a fighter pilot if his jet is boring when he does not want it to be.
Also, sometimes you are just trying to get from here to there and if you could miss the traffic, it would be great. Different vehicles for different tasks. Beside you could do barrel rools in a flying car, try doing that in a Corvette!
Did you never watch the Jetsons? His flying car folded up to a suitcase and he could carry it!
Sometimes you want microwave food, sometimes you want Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
I think its entirely possible to build a flying car these days and I remember seeing one in a Popular Mechanics magazine some years ago which was viable. There's no infrastructure in place to have roads in the skies as such, ways of preventing accidents which would nearly always be fatal and lots and lots of ways to tax people because the road taxes would no longer apply. I read somewhere a while back that magnetics can be very powerful and in this case, the story stated that a square yard of two opposing magnets, could repel 37 tons of weight! Now I don't know what formulas are needed to verify that number but the thought of the possibilities are tremendous. The implication is that you could have buried coils in the roads, drive over the magnetic coils with a charged magnet which would induce a repulsing magnetic field which would cause your ride to rise off the ground. Keep the magnets ahead of you and keep moving and you would effectively float over the surface. Keeping things lined up would be the next task but just make a moveable magnetic system on the car itself to keep it lined up.
Even if we never see things in our lifetime, I think its possible now but somewhere, someone, somehow, the development is being stopped.
Thats what Mag-lev high-speed rail networks are for. Have you ever ridden in one. I once road into Paris at over 150mph in complete silence. In-credible.
Thats what Mag-lev high-speed rail networks are for. Have you ever ridden in one. I once road into Paris at over 150mph in complete silence. In-credible.
That's what the article I read was about...trains. But can do cars easily and then some, if they ever actually did it. Getting the tires off the ground would get rid of a lot of resistance to movement and improve MPG a lot...not forgetting tire wear would drop dramatically. But stopping might become an issue....lol...there's always something.
The base Corvette should hit the market with at least 500hp. The Z06 will need 600hp and the ZR1 700hp. I think I will wait until the base model comes with 1000hp in two years, lol.
Originally Posted by Jp23rockstar
I'm predicting 485hp for the base engine because that is how much the current c6r has. The rumors stated that the base model will be close to the current c6. I could see that happening.
Power-to-weight ratio is more important than the total horsepower.
We won't see 1000HP even in a ZR1... Ever.
The base Corvette will be around 450HP. It's going to still be faster than the LS3 C6.
I don't know why you guys keep expecting that numbers will only go up rather than flatten out or go down.
I believe the C8 will have significantly less HP and tons more torque than any C6 or C7. I'd venture a guess that the C8 will around 350HP and 5-600Lbs of torque because I believe by that time we will no longer be using an ICE base drive system.
Either way, that big fat grin you people get when you mash the gas comes from TORQUE, not HP. If you had 1000HP and 100Lbs of torque, you would hardly feel the kick at all. I know of course you guys are going to flame me for it, but I suggest you get into a Tesla Roaster and floor it. If you still say 190Lbs of torque and 200HP feels slow, I will say you're in denial.
Power-to-weight ratio is more important than the total horsepower.
We won't see 1000HP even in a ZR1... Ever.
The base Corvette will be around 450HP. It's going to still be faster than the LS3 C6.
I don't know why you guys keep expecting that numbers will only go up rather than flatten out or go down.
I believe the C8 will have significantly less HP and tons more torque than any C6 or C7. I'd venture a guess that the C8 will around 350HP and 5-600Lbs of torque because I believe by that time we will no longer be using an ICE base drive system.
Either way, that big fat grin you people get when you mash the gas comes from TORQUE, not HP. If you had 1000HP and 100Lbs of torque, you would hardly feel the kick at all. I know of course you guys are going to flame me for it, but I suggest you get into a Tesla Roaster and floor it. If you still say 190Lbs of torque and 200HP feels slow, I will say you're in denial.
Why would they they decrease hp, when new technology allows for greater efficiency and power, whens the last sports cars in the past decade decrease performance, the customer always wants more, I feel that by decreasing power tq and hp is a step down. Like you said they should also cut weight. The c7 is expected all around to be a better performing car, I don't see 485hp as that hard to get with direct injection and other technologies. The camaro zl1 puts 580hp and 560tq, their increasing power, same with the mustang 2013 650hp increasing power, the customer would always want more, why settle for less
Power-to-weight ratio is more important than the total horsepower.
We won't see 1000HP even in a ZR1... Ever.
The base Corvette will be around 450HP. It's going to still be faster than the LS3 C6.
I don't know why you guys keep expecting that numbers will only go up rather than flatten out or go down.
I believe the C8 will have significantly less HP and tons more torque than any C6 or C7. I'd venture a guess that the C8 will around 350HP and 5-600Lbs of torque because I believe by that time we will no longer be using an ICE base drive system.
Either way, that big fat grin you people get when you mash the gas comes from TORQUE, not HP. If you had 1000HP and 100Lbs of torque, you would hardly feel the kick at all. I know of course you guys are going to flame me for it, but I suggest you get into a Tesla Roaster and floor it. If you still say 190Lbs of torque and 200HP feels slow, I will say you're in denial.
It is horsepower under the curve to the tires versus your weight. You can take a 1000 hp with 100 ft an dput a massively torque multiplying trtansmission in place. Say 100 to 1 versus 9 to 1 in standard trans and differential. It would still apply the same peak torque to the tires. Look at an F1 car, very high acceleration with a low peak torque. ~800-850HP in a low weight car. Power to weight ratio with proper gearing beats higher torque with worse power to weight as long as available traction of the tires is not significantly exceeded.
Why would they they decrease hp, when new technology allows for greater efficiency and power, whens the last sports cars in the past decade decrease performance, the customer always wants more, I feel that by decreasing power tq and hp is a step down. Like you said they should also cut weight. The c7 is expected all around to be a better performing car, I don't see 485hp as that hard to get with direct injection and other technologies. The camaro zl1 puts 580hp and 560tq, their increasing power, same with the mustang 2013 650hp increasing power, the customer would always want more, why settle for less
Yes in the last 10 years automakers were not faced with massively increasing fuel economy standards. They are now. I was alive when the last time it happened power did go down and emmissions did too. Too much change too fast causes problems.
Also, the C7 Corvette can be an "all around to be a better performing car", even if it has less power and torque if it is sufficiently lighter. It will also get even better mileage.
It is horsepower under the curve to the tires versus your weight. You can take a 1000 hp with 100 ft an dput a massively torque multiplying trtansmission in place. Say 100 to 1 versus 9 to 1 in standard trans and differential. It would still apply the same peak torque to the tires. Look at an F1 car, very high acceleration with a low peak torque. ~800-850HP in a low weight car. Power to weight ratio with proper gearing beats higher torque with worse power to weight as long as available traction of the tires is not significantly exceeded.
Goes without saying, you can always convert hp to tq and tq to hp through gearing. But who's going to build a practical transmission with a 100:1 gear ratio? My point was that in future, it will be inevitable that electric drivetrains will be used - producing far less power numbers than we're used to seeing. That would put a wrench in the gears of the number game.
Yes in the last 10 years automakers were not faced with massively increasing fuel economy standards. They are now. I was alive when the last time it happened power did go down and emmissions did too. Too much change too fast causes problems.
Also, the C7 Corvette can be an "all around to be a better performing car", even if it has less power and torque if it is sufficiently lighter. It will also get even better mileage.
Blame Obama for these regulations, anyways corvette makes up about 2% of GM vehicles sold.
The scientists and engineers delivered flying car technology.
The problem is that you couldn't afford to fuel it. It takes a lot of energy to defy gravity.
Well, that and nobody can drive worth a damn within the confines of roads, so we know better than to let ourselves careen about the sky *****-nilly.
Actually Jesse James did it in one build on monster garage, probably took the "real" scientists and engineers 10 years to get where he and his team did in a week. Though I would agree Jesse and team didn't have to worry about all the stupid safety regs that engineers do, which is probably over 50% of their time and effort these days.