Hmm, if it's a non issue then why isn't it standard on all Boxsters.
It doesn't cost more to produce (according to you).
Most find that it looks nicer.
It functions in the exact same manner.






No, I don't actually believe that.
And I also don't believe that the Corvette's seat recline lever is crappy (as others have subjectively stated) either.

 

Marc, this is a link to the 2012 Boxster pricing data.

http://buyersguide.roadandtrack.com/...price#features

Once you click on "next" and get to the options page, there are so many 'aluminum look' packages (some included with leather packages and some not) it would drive you to drink sorting through it all. I'm on the road today and tomorrow and don't feel like doing that (sorting through it all).

Needless to say, and as I posted earlier, most any Porsche you see in print, on TV, etc. are gussied up. Unless you take a fifth to your dealer to spend some time reviewing options, it is hard to sort it out.

In any event, I like the Corvette as is.

 

I didn't say it was a non-issue. As a matter of fact, I haven't identified it as an issue at all.

I never said that.

Although I posted the follow-up question about "crappy" to jackhall99, you did previously state that you agreed "exactly" with him when he identified the OEM seat lever as "crappy".

 

Read my post and quit trying to put words in my mouth.

I stated:
"Follow this link, open the brochure, scroll to page 35, and look at picture 1, the standard Boxster seat in plastic with a crappy looking handle.

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/bo...y/?gtabindex=3 "

Since you subsequently posted "Words have meaning", take your own comment to heart and don't drop my words to try and change the meaning of my post.

 

Well you certainly thought/agreed that it was at least some sort of 'an issue', no?
Whether it be a stand alone one, a direct one, an indirect one etc?:Once again, some very strategically placed semantics and 'self fulfilling logic' being strewn about here LOL.







Wait, you've never once said in this (or others) section of this message board that it does not cost Porsche any more to increase the 'quality' of materials utilized in their interiors? That the price of their vehicles was not a product of their interior feel/appearance and that it's merely what the 'market will pay' that dictates price?

Blatantly convenient backpedaling and contradiction is not a very credible form of debate/discussion bro LOL.

 

He can't help it, it's actually the one thing that I've noticed he is quite EXCELLENT at here LOL.

 

You in fact identified the Boxster lever as "crappy" ("crappy" used as an adjective), so I have not tried to "put words in your mouth" with what I have said.

You still haven't explained why the exact same lever is "crappy" in black and not "crappy" in silver, especially with regard to what the conversation between Guibo and myself was about.

 

No. I have no issue with either the Vette's seat lever or the Boxster's seat lever. I believe one of them is better designed and constructed, has a better functional feel, and looks better.

No.

I haven't done any of those things.

 

Wow, and you think silver paint on the Corvette handle is going to suddenly make it look as good as the Porsche's? LOL. Lipstick, meet pig.
It's not just in brochures where you'll find that silver handle. Just about every Boxster you can find for sale has that. Not surprising as it's not hard to find a Porsche with $8k in options on it. If you can find one with the black handle, I'll find you 10 with the silver.
Secondly, you missed the other point of my post: The Corvette's manual adjustment lever (and seats in general) have been criticized by both media and owners alike for their flimsiness. Judging by the photos, it's not hard to see why; the Porsche's looks engineered to a higher standard. They may both do the same job, but that's not entirely the point. When talking about quality or perceived quality, it's how they do their jobs. You seriously think a car that can pull 1.10g yet has grossly inadequate support for the driver reeks of quality? Or, is it quite possible that where they've cut corners in one basic element of a sports car, it's entirely possible they've cut corners elsewhere?
And look at the clear difference in the fit & finish of the stitching and where the leather meets the plastic seat base. Huge difference.

Boxster too rich for your blood? Fine. Here's a standard BMW 1-Series seat with manual adjustment. Clearly it looks like someone sweated the details in designing it. That car starts at $31k so you can't say there's a direct correlation between MSRP and what it actually costs a company to make a part.



Again, do you think most people on a Corvette forum would agree when the media criticized their car? Why is it ok for Corvette owners to mention the flimsy seats and and seat handle, yet when media does it, it's somehow bias? Is it even remotely possible, in your world, that when GM's own execs say there's a problem with the Corvette's interior when compared to competitors, that there just might be some truth in it?

 

I trust you can read the phrase in my post (highlighted to assist you to find it). Crappy looking is not the same as crappy, as in using poor material or workmanship. However, the Corvette seat lever also is not of crappy material or workmanship.

 

This thread, like many in C7 General Discussion, has taken a particularly argumentative turn, and yet the above post still stands out as a shining example of shameful behavior.

We've told you over and over again not to personally insult other members. Apparently you can't help yourself. Or maybe you're just a troll. Either way, I hope you never post here again. And please don't buy a Corvette. In fact, please don't buy any sports car.

.Jinx

 

If you are calling the Corvette a pig, you are one dumb guy, and not sure why you are on the forum yet.

And no, the Boxster is not too rich for my blood. Nor the 911 series. Nor .... It doesn't matter. That's none of your nor anyone else's business.

 

SIR YES SIR!





Ill keep your advice under due consideration especially regarding if I should purchase a specific vehicle or not...

Because afterall your opinion matters

 

Gm could learn a thing or 2 from caravecchio (sp)
I need to talk to John (in Canada, I believe) he'll set them straight.

 

Caravaggio

 

That's not the point of my posts on this topic. If someone uses the word "crappy" to describe something, be it "crappy" looking, "crappy" feeling, "crappy" workmanship, "crappy" materials", "crappy" functionality, "crappy" animated figures in posts, "crappy" big letters and highlighting, or "crappy" logic, they have identified the item/function/thought/feel/concept as "crappy".

 

Wow, Notch, did you actually just tell jackhall99 what he meant?

Read my mind next. Tell me what I'm thinking...

 

I don't read people's minds, but I'd guess you're not thinking about English.

 

I think about English a lot. I don't think about telling someone what they meant when they said something.