And the Z fob has it, too. (but a lot of guys complained about it because stuff in their pockets would press against the fob and hold it down long enough to open the windows while they were in their house and the Z parked close by in the driveway...then the rain would come )

 

Guess NISSAN didn't design it right, on every car I've ever seen with the feature you have to first press the LOCK button then within 3 seconds press and hold the UNLOCK button another 3 to 5 seconds.

I don't see how a random or causal push of one button would lower all the windows and the pending rain was a nice touch.

 

Sounds like a really useless feature to me.

 

See, this possibility alone would be a reason for me NOT to want it.

 

I don't use it. Lowering the windows when I'm 50 feet from the car is no big deal. So, I don't know exactly how it's done. I believe it's pressing two buttons on the fob at the same time (something that could be accomplished at random with a pocket full of junk).

 

Yeah, I tend to agree but I don't really care if others like it or not. It just might be one of those "looky what I can do" features to impress strangers in a parking lot for all I know.

 

I guess there is a feature for everything. It couldn't possibly be that hard to add to the original setup of the car if they wanted to.

 

I've found lots of reasons for using it, actually.

One is that before I go out to my car on a hot day, I roll down the windows from inside my house while I'm getting ready. By the time I get into my car it's cooled down a few degrees.

Another use I find really nice is when I'm short on time, rather than sitting there and rolling up the windows after parking, I get out and roll them up with the FOB as I'm walking away.

One last reason is that sometimes someone parks too close to my car and I have to "Dukes of Hazard" my way into the car. Actually, this has only happened twice, but it's nice that I can if I need.

I'm sure there's other reasons I can't think of right now, but believe me it's a nice feature. One thing to remember is that this feature is a free feature. It doesn't cost anything to have the feature in money or in weight. So why not have all the free features?

 

This seems like your best reason.

I just put both my fingers under the L/R window buttons and pull up to shut both of them (as I'm pulling in or gathering anything I need to take with me from the car). That movement takes about a second.

It's never happened to me (but I park away from the close spots and at the edge of the line of parking spots just about everywhere I go)

I don't think there is such a thing as a free feature. I mean, it's being added to the cost of the car somewhere.

I'm not against it. I'm pretty much ambivalent about it. I don't see much of a need for it for the average person. Since I garage my car, your best reason wouldn't apply for me. And, as to the "advertised" reason--to put your windows down as you approach it in a parking lot on a hot day so you can let the temperature cool down to (for example) 118 degrees from 120 degrees--I am reminded of a comedy bit by Ellen DeGeneres about the seats on airplanes. She pretends to be sitting in a seat and decides she wants to rest/sleep so she lets the seat recline (and she moves her shoulders back about an inch to mimic the tiny movement of the airplane seat) and says, "Ahhhhh, that's much better! Now I can really relax and get some sleep."

 

Well, lets face it, not everyone garages their Corvette. My dad parks his on the driveway. I park mine in a garage. But that doesn't mean I don't drive the car and park it somewhere outside where it doesn't get hot. Even walking out to the car and rolling down the windows when you're 100ft away makes a huge difference in temp by the time you get to the car. Trust me on this. It gets really hot out. And believe me it cools down faster than you'd think. 120-118 is very much an exaggeration. It can cool down more than 5 degrees just by opening the windows. That's big when you think about it.

 

If seconds are that valuable to you, then this feature is nice for you.

LA, huh? It happens from time-to-time here. Someone will park out beside my car or the wife's Mini and she's like, "WTF?" But no one has ever parked so close that we needed to crawl through the window. LA probably has too many haters.

I understand "free" as it relates to materials. But it's not free IF GM invests personnel time:

• To program the eprom / firmware to accept a certain transmitted code from the fob;
• To spend time documenting the feature and writing it up in the car's manual;
• For anticipated time to handle calls and inquiries about how to use the feature (for those who can't understand or don't read the manuals).

Anytime any manufacturer spends any time on something, it gets figured into the total cost of the item (whether additional materials were required or not).

A related example: "My" heating/cooling company charges me $50 for the filter for our air conditioner. I located a place to buy them wholesale like he does and paid about $21 per filter for 10 of them. So why does the guy charge me more for the item than he paid for it? Because he invested time in appropriating it.

It may have been an exaggeration but from my perspective, I think once heat gets up to a certain point, I really can't tell the difference between a vehicle that's 130 degrees inside and one that's 120 or 125 inside. At a certain point, hot is just HOT. LOL.

And while I can't claim "Hotlanta" is going to be as hot as LA, we give you guys a good run for your money. Last year we set a new record for the most consecutive days above 90 degrees--more than a month as I recall. Most days, it was 95-97. And let's not even talk about the heat index / humidity which made it feel like 105 most of the time.

Thanks for a civil discussion.

 

Damn, even my wifes last car a 2001 Infiniti had that feature, did not know my Corvette did not.

 

I used mine when getting ready to leave the house!

I drop the window & put my gym bag, iPad,etc on front seat & don't have to open the doors! I have another car next to me in garage & sometimes it gets to close! I can still open the door, just easier to put things thru the window!!

Also if I'm going to remove my roof, it much easier to drop the windows, I don't have to turn on the car!

Drop the windows, pop trunk, flip latches & put top in back!!

I bought mine used right here on the forum, this is the 2nd C6 iv'e used it
in over the last 6 years! Think I bought it for $50-60 so $10 a year!

Well worth it, if they don't put it in (window valet) C7, I hope it will work in it!!

 

Some additional reasons for it. I never use it but I see some people have found it handy at times.

 

Like many so called useless automotive features once you have this you'll use it.

Often it's these little features that frame how you feel about the vehicle you just bought.

 

No reason to charge any money for a remote express window down feature.

FOB exists (use the door unlock button in specific sequence)
Window exists
Electric motor exists
Battery exists
Computer exists
Remote receiver exists

Programmer would write that incidental code while he was scarfing down a hoho.

 

 

I have the Top Down Valet, but I use it most of the time to vent the windows, when I park the car at the office. My vette is an everyday driver for me. I use it every morning when I get to the office, vent the windows and lock the car. On really hot days, I will put the windows all the way down before I get to the car in the PM when I am leaving the office, to let the hot air escape. It's a great feature that should be standard. I am surprised that GM never included this feature, since it is on almost every other car, made in Europe or Japan. But then again, GM has always been behind the eight ball.

 

You have a point that GM would figure a higher cost into it, but I doubt it would be that noticeable in the final cost of the car.

Aside from that, 95-97 does suck. But if that doesn't work for you, never come to Los Angeles in August. Every year for the past 5 years August has gone through weeks of 105+ here. A few days in the month it will be well over 110.

The rest of the year is just fine.

 

I don't like too much heat but I tolerate it well. I hardly ever use the air conditioning in my Z (preferring to have all the power I can). I wear a t-shirt and let the (hot) wind in my windows do any cooling.

I lived in Thailand for 3 years. I was younger then and 120 degrees became "normal" for me.

I visited relatives of my ex who lived in (suburb of) LA. Went during the summer. I don't remember it being much different than Atlanta--though I may have just gotten lucky that week -- LOL. I understand it's basically a desert that people have irrigated. And we visited my ex's grandmother who lived in Bullhead City, AZ--frequently the hottest place of the day in US weather reports.

Personally, I think LA traffic and drivers are enough to keep me away ( )...heat would be secondary.