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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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Looking at that illustration, I bet it's the back of the car with the hatch closed, and no glass installed.

Look at the freeze frame a few posts up, then the illustration from the manual. A close hatch you able to see something sitting inside due to no glass installed.

Thats my official opinion.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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I'm not sure but if you look at the vid in post 140, it makes it sound as though these welds have a specific look because of the tech used. And those welds are aluminum-to-aluminum.
What in the video makes it sound as though the welds in the video have a specific look to them? I do not get that.

Even if they do have a specific look, is it so specific that the tiny highlighted pixels in the Teaser 4 cap must only be that and therefore the material must be aluminum?

I don't do hightech metal fabrication. Do you? I need more evidence or an expert opinion. No offense, but you have not convinced me.

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BustedCrank
While it looks like the front end to me, upon seeing the render below, it makes me think again. The body lines for the front clip do not match up. In the picture above, shouldn't we be able to see the cutout on the fender for the headlight? In the renderings, the headlights come way up the fender, I am not seeing that in the above picture. Anybody catch what I am saying? Or am I way off base here? I usually rely on you guys to decipher all this for me, while I sit back and enjoy the benefits of your labor.
Sorry, I just don't see it...enlarge the image and look at the left corner...
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BustedCrank
While it looks like the front end to me, upon seeing the render below, it makes me think again. The body lines for the front clip do not match up. In the picture above, shouldn't we be able to see the cutout on the fender for the headlight? In the renderings, the headlights come way up the fender, I am not seeing that in the above picture. Anybody catch what I am saying? Or am I way off base here? I usually rely on you guys to decipher all this for me, while I sit back and enjoy the benefits of your labor.
I see what you are saying and in my opinion..if that is indeed the front that is going to be a crazy downward angle.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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and with this photo here you can tell that it could match up as far as how much flat body panel space there is in the photo above and this one

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-1280x782.jpg

Possibly a hood with no vents or engine, but i just don't know about those dropoffs and angle of the body/slope or whatever
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jinx
What in the video makes it sound as though the welds in the video have a specific look to them? I do not get that.

Even if they do have a specific look, is it so specific that the tiny highlighted pixels in the Teaser 4 cap must only be that and therefore the material must be aluminum?

I don't do hightech metal fabrication. Do you? I need more evidence or an expert opinion. No offense, but you have not convinced me.

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The "special multi-ring electrode" welds looks similar to those welds. I can't get a close enough image to tell. I certainly can't prove anything and am not really trying to convince you, just pointing out that it looks similar.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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Looking at the upper left hand corner of the first picture, it looks like an opening for the hood vent insert. On the right side of the picture in front of the gentleman in the white t-shirt, is where the headlight should go. It's going to be a very nice looking car!

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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I see round taillights....like a GT-R.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jdhommert
and with this photo here you can tell that it could match up as far as how much flat body panel space there is in the photo above and this one

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-1280x782.jpg

Possibly a hood with no vents or engine, but i just don't know about those dropoffs and angle of the body/slope or whatever
I suppose if the light stops right where the camo starts in that picture it would work. I would think that would look a little goofy. And I don't see them having a body line/gap up there. But could be.

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Sorry, I just don't see it...enlarge the image and look at the left corner...
I agree, it looks to be way to large of an area to be the rear fender. But shouldn't we be able to see the cutout for the headlight in the fender?
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Here's some pictures of what I think after finding the Picture of the Rear of a depicted C7. ( which until now I'd never seen before )
And IMO Contrary to most of the pictures of the rear hatch/side windows etc. in the 1st Picture of a Red C7... ( which I wasn't excited over ) ..
the 3rd picture of the rear end view ( hatch and side windows ) is GREAT IMO.
And Camaro tail lights or not which in that 3rd picture to me look Great ... The C7 is going to be a HIT
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BustedCrank
While it looks like the front end to me, upon seeing the render below, it makes me think again. The body lines for the front clip do not match up. In the picture above, shouldn't we be able to see the cutout on the fender for the headlight? In the renderings, the headlights come way up the fender, I am not seeing that in the above picture. Anybody catch what I am saying? Or am I way off base here? I usually rely on you guys to decipher all this for me, while I sit back and enjoy the benefits of your labor.
I had the same thought, but refrained from posting as I'm too confused by this picture.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ-92
that is true. However, the chassis of the c6 was designed as a steel structure then made out of AL for the Z cars. If it were origonally engineered out of AL as we believe the C7 to be, it certainly would have had different charicteristics than a warmed over steel design. That being said, I would guess the C7 frame to be lighter and more rigid than the C6 z care due to that fact.
Not sure I agree here.

While I agree that a frame specifically designed for aluminum will be better, the C6Z cars are fixed roof structure and not an open top like the C7. The fixed roof played a big role in increasing rigidity and was able to make it stiffer and lighter than the steel framed cars. Downside was you couldn't take off the roof (if that was important to you). It is very possible that despite an older design, the closed roof structure still makes the older frames more rigid than the other one.

Playing devil's advocate here, you could say there may be additional weight and material (ex: increased thickness) required to make an aluminum frame stiff enough without the closed roof (still lighter than the older steel frame though) and it still may not have the same rigidity as the C6 closed roof setup or older steel frames.

A C7 with a fixed roof would be the bee's knees though.

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BustedCrank
While it looks like the front end to me, upon seeing the render below, it makes me think again. The body lines for the front clip do not match up. In the picture above, shouldn't we be able to see the cutout on the fender for the headlight? In the renderings, the headlights come way up the fender, I am not seeing that in the above picture. Anybody catch what I am saying? Or am I way off base here? I usually rely on you guys to decipher all this for me, while I sit back and enjoy the benefits of your labor.
I wonder if this is the hood/FR fender.. and the fender we're seeing is only a temporary mock up placed on the car for hood installation and alignment, and removed after the hood install. It may be cut off around the point where the headlights begin to have clear access to the hood hinge. The fender does have writing on it, and we know these cars shown being built are basically "test runs" for the plant. On one of the frames you can see BG54 11-19, I assume this means Bolling Green, 54th chassis, November 19th.


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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeG37
I wonder if this is the hood/FR fender.. and the fender we're seeing is only a temporary mock up placed on the car for hood installation and alignment, and removed after the hood install. It may be cut off around the point where the headlights begin to have clear access to the hood hinge. The fender does have writing on it, and we know these cars shown being built are basically "test runs" for the plant. On one of the frames you can see BG54 11-19, I assume this means Bolling Green, 54th chassis, November 19th.
Brilliant Mike !
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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I saw those also, maybe front without nose cap?
Yep - I think that's it.

The video literally shows the skeletal of the car which is actually important to me.

So thank you for this great reveal.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeG37
I wonder if this is the hood/FR fender.. and the fender we're seeing is only a temporary mock up placed on the car for hood installation and alignment, and removed after the hood install. It may be cut off around the point where the headlights begin to have clear access to the hood hinge. The fender does have writing on it, and we know these cars shown being built are basically "test runs" for the plant. On one of the frames you can see BG54 11-19, I assume this means Bolling Green, 54th chassis, November 19th.

AWESOME FIND !!!!
I knew they were building them there !
And some people were doubting that
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by burtonbl103
AWESOME FIND !!!!
I knew they were building them there !
And some people were doubting that
I bet this is the new chassis section of the plant in what was the XLR portion. This part of the plant could be complete/running and not interfere with final C6 production.

Chassis #102?
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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AWESOME FIND !!!!
I knew they were building them there !
And some people were doubting that
Well, if anyone took a BG tour last year you could see a large part of the plant blocked off with plywood. They were obviously doing something behind those walls they didn't want anyone to see.
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Originally Posted by MikeG37
I bet this is the new chassis section of the plant in what was the XLR portion. This part of the plant could be complete/running and not interfere with final C6 production.

Chassis #102?
I remeber it whe i did my museum deliver i got to tour the XLR line when it was still there in 2005.
Was a large area. So makes sense that they had the room back there to pull that off. FRAME assembly them back to the two other lines. BOdy and rolling suspension
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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The "special multi-ring electrode" welds looks similar to those welds. I can't get a close enough image to tell. I certainly can't prove anything and am not really trying to convince you, just pointing out that it looks similar.
Okay. It's been posted here that we now know the chassis is aluminum. "Know" is too strong a word from what I see. Sure, it could be aluminum, it's reasonable to think it'll have a lot of aluminum, the GM aluminum spot-welding technology doesn't look different from those spots in the teaser, and we'll all be surprised if that chassis isn't aluminum or at least aloomini-um, but these videos don't clinch it.

If somebody has spotted more conclusive evidence, please speak up. It'd be nice to say Corvette Forum nailed another tidbit early.

Still, BlueOx, the aluminum spotwelding video is another good find.

But if it's not aluminum, it could still be exotic and lightweight. What if it's nan- I mean high-strength steel? Perhaps a little titanium? Lots of magnesium? Speculation, so tasty.
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