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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Thanks for the blowup. Don't have a clue as to what the holes are in the fender liners, but I noticed that you can see the top of the throttle body and the top of the intake manifold. Comparing that to the top of the cowl, it appears that there is room for a supercharger and a top mounted inner cooler without having a raised hood as with the C6 ZR1.
Maybe a way to replace headlight bulbs?
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GmdVT
intercooler for the twin turbos, and those holes are probably just for the headlight wires
On the C6, you have a fairly large opening(~8" X 9") in the front of the wheel liner to access the rear of the headlight housings(to change bulbs), that are covered with a rubber covering held in place with push pins. That makes me wonder how you would access the headlight bulbs on the C7(based on what we see in the pic).

On the C6, no wires go through the liner but are routed between the front fascia/headlight housing and the liner. I wouldn't think you would want any headlight wiring harness exposed to the elements around the front suspension and tires.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:17 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nueboch
Wow, really enjoyed this trailer!!
Me two. While I'm not going to buy/drive an ugly car, I'm more interested in the mechanicals then the styling. This trailer really gives us some details of the underpinnings. Hope we get more pics of the car's suspension/chassis/etc.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:18 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Stew24
Maybe have your lettering in green too! Red is a bit hard to read.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ZL-1
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The frame certainly does look "lower mass". No more massive full-length hydroformed frame rails. The C7's aluminum hydroformed sections are much shorter and chopped off right after the front and rear control arm mounting points. Then lighter extruded aluminum extensions are welded on for the remaining distance to front and rear.

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I'm thinking that the hydroformed frame rails have a thicker wall then the welded in place frame extensions(thinner wall thickness) that connect to the bumper beams so that the extensions are part of the designed/engineered crush zone(to absorb energy).

It appears that they have designed the center box section to make the chassis much more rigid then the C6. It appears to be taller and appears to have some aluminum castings at the front that are welded to the inner frame that connects to the hydroformed frame rails. The C5/C6 did not have that extra framing, just the lower firewall stamping.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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Maybe have your lettering in green too! Red is a bit hard to read.
And you guys jump on me when I post using different colors.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stew24
What I love most about that center crease is how it's going to continue into the headlight. Brilliant.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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I must have missed something -- how do we know it's all aluminum and not steel?

Originally Posted by ZL-1
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The frame certainly does look "lower mass". No more massive full-length hydroformed frame rails. The C7's aluminum hydroformed sections are much shorter and chopped off right after the front and rear control arm mounting points. Then lighter extruded aluminum extensions are welded on for the remaining distance to front and rear.

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I disagree. I think the outer rails remain full-length, with the suspension pickup points on a separate piece that's attached to the rails. The more complex creased shape of the ends of the rails is for strength and crash energy management. Mazda did this on their new CX5 chassis -- check out this chassis walkaround on Autoline Detroit:


Doesn't hold a candle to Corvette's chassis, but it's still informative.

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I'm thinking that the hydroformed frame rails have a thicker wall then the welded in place frame extensions(thinner wall thickness) that connect to the bumper beams so that the extensions are part of the designed/engineered crush zone(to absorb energy).

It appears that they have designed the center box section to make the chassis much more rigid then the C6. It appears to be taller and appears to have some aluminum castings at the front that are welded to the inner frame that connects to the hydroformed frame rails. The C5/C6 did not have that extra framing, just the lower firewall stamping.
Hmmm...
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteman741
you can see the rear quarter windows in the front body shot at beginning
In the renderings, the side windows/sail panels look to be more vertical(like the B piller) but with that shot, the side windows/sail panels look to be laid over at about a 45* angle.


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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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And you guys jump on me when I post using different colors.
Yeah, poor Joe!
You people stop pickin on him!
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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I dunno - that wouldn't flex very well in a low speed bump. I doubt the end caps are CF - more likely some type of flexible plastic like the C6, so as to meet the 2.5 mph standard.

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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BTW, could those be magnesium castings, not aluminum? IIRC a while back there were some articles posted on GM's enthusiasm for magnesium because it could be cast in more complex shapes.
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Originally Posted by Jinx
BTW, could those be magnesium castings, not aluminum? IIRC a while back there were some articles posted on GM's enthusiasm for magnesium because it could be cast in more complex shapes.
My guess is aluminum as they are welded to the aluminum stampings. But, maybe GM had developed a means to weld magnesium to aluminum. Another thing I noticed, is that I don't see the self piercing rivets like were used in the C6's aluminum frame

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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Yeah, poor Joe!
You people stop pickin on him!
My feelings get hurt very easily.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
My guess is aluminum as they are welded to the aluminum stampings. But, maybe GM had developed a means to weld magnesium to aluminum. Another thing I noticed, is that I don't see the self piercing rivets like were used in the C6's aluminum frame
How do we know it's aluminum stampings?
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
My guess is aluminum as they are welded to the aluminum stampings. But, maybe GM had developed a means to weld magnesium to aluminum. Another thing I noticed, is that I don't see the self piercing rivets like were used in the C6's aluminum frame
I thought they were getting a patent on their aluminum welding technology that was to delete a lot of rivets.
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