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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 02:15 PM
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It matters that a large segment of the vette family are unhappy with the rear.This seems to be way more serious than the window on the ZR1,the chrome G.S. badge,crappy nav. and seats.If all the dislikers don't come around and stick by there "keeping my vette" statements the stingray aint gonna sell thereby forcing a redesign. My bet?The pain will subside.It's been 4 days and I'm felling better already!!
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Those people don't matter to GM.

They only have an interest in those that will buy the car.

If they sell 25k in year one, they will care even less.

People who hate it have every right for that opinion. But they are delusional to think their opinion will force people not to buy it or force GM to change. Just as no one can force someone who hates it to like it.

If hey meet their sales goals then they will be proven to have strategic vision. If not they will pay the price.
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Like I said before, for every crybaby here that doesnt like the forward thinking and looking C7, there are TONS of people outside the Corvette community that will buy it. And I'm sure some of these early haters will eventually want and buy a C7.
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So how people fill doesn't matter....the car will sell regardless......hmmm.......that's good they are immune to anything stopping the corvette sales. They can make it however they want, and it will still sale.....that's AWESOME.

They could turn it into a minivan.....but who cares....it will still sale!
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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It matters that a large segment of the vette family are unhappy with the rear.This seems to be way more serious than the window on the ZR1,the chrome G.S. badge,crappy nav. and seats.If all the dislikers don't come around and stick by there "keeping my vette" statements the stingray aint gonna sell thereby forcing a redesign. My bet?The pain will subside.It's been 4 days and I'm felling better already!!
What year is your Corvette?
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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What year is your Corvette?
I own an 01 Z, 10 G.S. vert and a 10 ZR1.I'll be waiting for the HI-PO C-7.
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Originally Posted by Kratos-TM
So how people fill doesn't matter....the car will sell regardless......hmmm.......that's good they are immune to anything stopping the corvette sales. They can make it however they want, and it will still sale.....that's AWESOME.

They could turn it into a minivan.....but who cares....it will still sale!
That is not what we are saying at all, big distinction.

They Don't care what people think about the car....AS LONG AS....enough other people end up buying it.

If you don't buy it they could care less.....AS LONG AS.... enough other people do.

There are 300 million people in the USA..... They only need to hit a very tiny percentage of them to win......
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I own an 01 Z, 10 G.S. vert and a 10 ZR1.I'll be waiting for the HI-PO C-7.
Did you like the clear hood window of your ZR1?
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It matters that a large segment of the vette family are unhappy with the rear.This seems to be way more serious than the window on the ZR1,the chrome G.S. badge,crappy nav. and seats.If all the dislikers don't come around and stick by there "keeping my vette" statements the stingray aint gonna sell thereby forcing a redesign. My bet?The pain will subside.It's been 4 days and I'm felling better already!!
I actually thingk that the majority of Corvette fans like the new design and even many of those that don't like the rear will come around just like they did after the C6 was released.

There is a lot of hate here on this forum but I also noticed that many of those people screaming and crying about it are not even Vette owners and a good percentage couldn't affort a new C7 regardless.. Also, many of those that are Vette owners don't own C6's and again fall into the can't affort it category or are people that have not embraced the changes that have been made over the last couple or more generations.

Sure there are some that own C6's and can't stand the new design but from what I can tell, the vast majority of people do like the design and their contentions with the rear end will not inhibit their purchase decisions.

Let's face it, this was a drastic change and a departure from familiarity. Some people have a very difficult time dealing with changes, let alone drastic ones. I however like most Corvette owners love Corvettes because of what it brings to the table as far as bang for the buck, driving dynamics, performance and all around fun factor and round tail lights are something that don't do anything for any of the above. Of couse looks are a major factor but it is one that is very subjective and it's easy to fall for something that we would not traditionally embrace if our needs are met.

Forward thinking and technology advancements are what drives me and perks my interest. That and value for my money. I don't expect the C7 will fall short on any of those things and will likely over achieve on most accounts. As such, I will embrace it and in my case, the shape of the tail lights or other peoples opinion will have no impact on my purchase decisions.

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Did you like the clear hood window of your ZR1?
I do.If my hood was damaged it would not be replaced with the 427 version.
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It matters that a large segment of the vette family are unhappy with the rear.
The unhappy ones are always the most vocal. They are hardly a large segment.

Non corvette and corvette owners alike have all talked to me about this car. Every one of them was very excited about it. The general consensus is that it's awesome, worthy of the stingray name, and people can't wait to see them on the road.

There are plenty of people that don't like it but then striking forward design is always polarizing.
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Originally Posted by rob62
I do.If my hood was damaged it would not be replaced with the 427 version.
Only reason I brought it up was that a LOT of people didn't like that hood window when the Z came out. I like it but could have seen a number of different designs.
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Honestly, I am already starting to like the rear end...



And it was never a deal breaker for me in the first place. The car is killer!
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I kinda think we should be happy that there is a new Vette to begin with. We could easily have been facing the end of the Corvette production after what happend with the car companies a few years ago. They were facing bankruptcy and had to shut down several product lines. The Vette is a low volume car compared to others. It could have easily went the way of Pontiac, Saturn, and Olds.

GM made a $180+ Million dollar investment in the new Vette. We should hope it does well so the car can live on for many years to come. If it does well there will be other body styles down the road. I think GM is trying to bring in new blood to revive sales to try and keep the car alive... They could just say F#@% it and shut the cars production down for good. Then there would be no Vette at all... Maybe its time to cut them some slack, at least they are trying to keep the car alive.
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Originally Posted by keeks2915
That is not what we are saying at all, big distinction.

They Don't care what people think about the car....AS LONG AS....enough other people end up buying it.

If you don't buy it they could care less.....AS LONG AS.... enough other people do.

There are 300 million people in the USA..... They only need to hit a very tiny percentage of them to win......
^^Worth repeating........

Most people wont get a Vette period.......very tiny percentage

......Round tails were not improving C6 sales

.......They dont care what you think.........

.......It doesnt matter what you think.............

........Did I say they dont care?

.........Tadge emailed me and said he doesnt give a F**k what anyone thinks.............. He's Rick James
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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave
^^Worth repeating........

Most people wont get a Vette period.......very tiny percentage

......Round tails were not improving C6 sales

.......They dont care what you think.........

.......It doesnt matter what you think.............

........Did I say they dont care?

.........Tadge emailed me and said he doesnt give a F**k what anyone thinks.............. He's Rick James B*#ch
Fixed it for you
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Originally Posted by jr3
Fixed it for you

Perfect
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I actually thingk that the majority of Corvette fans like the new design and even many of those that don't like the rear will come around just like they did after the C6 was released.

There is a lot of hate here on this forum but I also noticed that many of those people screaming and crying about it are not even Vette owners and a good percentage couldn't afford a new C7 regardless.. Also, many of those that are Vette owners don't own C6's and again fall into the can't afford it category or are people that have not embraced the changes that have been made over the last couple or more generations.

Sure there are some that own C6's and can't stand the new design but from what I can tell, the vast majority of people do like the design and their contentions with the rear end will not inhibit their purchase decisions.

Let's face it, this was a drastic change and a departure from familiarity. Some people have a very difficult time dealing with changes, let alone drastic ones. I however like most Corvette owners love Corvettes because of what it brings to the table as far as bang for the buck, driving dynamics, performance and all around fun factor and round tail lights are something that don't do anything for any of the above. Of course looks are a major factor but it is one that is very subjective and it's easy to fall for something that we would not traditionally embrace if our needs are met.

Forward thinking and technology advancements are what drives me and perks my interest. That and value for my money. I don't expect the C7 will fall short on any of those things and will likely over achieve on most accounts. As such, I will embrace it and in my case, the shape of the tail lights or other peoples opinion will have no impact on my purchase decisions.
If only you knew what you are talking about......

I don't know the actual percentages of those who love the C7 design and those that don't....and you don't either. Of those that love the C7, you don't have a clue as to how many of them can actually scrape up enough money to buy one. For those that don't like the C7, you don't have a clue as to how many of them can or can not afford one.

I can only speak for my self, and you should only speak for yourself.

I have been scanning other forums and blogs and the reaction to the rear of the C7 is mostly negative. Just the opposite of what you are talking about. I have no way of looking into the pocketbook of those posting as to their financial abilities, and neither do you.

I've been reading the C6 Z06 section and not to many over there are lovin' it either. As a guess, I would think that if one can afford a C6 Z06 they could scrape up enough to get a C7, if they wanted one.

Now, speaking for myself, I have owned every generation Corvette except the C4 and currently I own a fully restored 56 and an all original 63,000 mile 64 coupe and a 09 Z06. I think I can afford a C7.

With me currently owning a 56, a 64 and a C6 Z06, and you believe I have a problem accepting change? I'm guessing I own a wider span(53 years) of Corvette "change" then you do.

Since you can not back up your assumptions about those that either like or dislike the C7 with actual facts, you resort to calling those that have a different opinion from yours, as HATER's. That's very adult of you.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
If only you knew what you are talking about......

I don't know the actual percentages of those who love the C7 design and those that don't....and you don't either. Of those that love the C7, you don't have a clue as to how many of them can actually scrape up enough money to buy one. For those that don't like the C7, you don't have a clue as to how many of them can or can not afford one.

I can only speak for my self, and you should only speak for yourself.

I have been scanning other forums and blogs and the reaction to the rear of the C7 is mostly negative. Just the opposite of what you are talking about. I have no way of looking into the pocketbook of those posting as to their financial abilities, and neither do you.

I've been reading the C6 Z06 section and not to many over there are lovin' it either. As a guess, I would think that if one can afford a C6 Z06 they could scrape up enough to get a C7, if they wanted one.

Now, speaking for myself, I have owned every generation Corvette except the C4 and currently I own a fully restored 56 and an all original 63,000 mile 64 coupe and a 09 Z06. I think I can afford a C7.

With me currently owning a 56, a 64 and a C6 Z06, and you believe I have a problem accepting change? I'm guessing I own a wider span(53 years) of Corvette "change" then you do.

Since you can not back up your assumptions about those that either like or dislike the C7 with actual facts, you resort to calling those that have a different opinion from yours, as HATER's. That's very adult of you.
My comment was based on this forum and this forum only as well as comments on the online magazine articles and news reviews.

Contrary to your intuition, it is in fact true that many of those posting in the C7 section do not own late model Corvettes and it is true that some of those people bashing the car here don't even own Corvettes. Some have said "If I could afford one, I wouldn't buy one or I have been waiting to buy a Vette for a long time and I guess I will be waiting longer.. Or, I was going to buy a Vette but now I will either buy a used C6 or a Mustang. Read the threads and you will see.

There happens to be a lot of people registered on this site, posting in the C7 section that are not Corvette owners by there own admission. Take a look at some of the posts and their history here. Some have been registered members for years while a very high percentage are new members who have recently joined the site and have only participated in the C7 section.. Of course this does not represent the majority by a long shot, but if you look at many of these threads that keep popping up, you will see what I mean. It's the same people over and over and over and over and over again..

One thing is consistent.. Out of thousands of C7 members, there is a small few who have done nothing but start rant threads here or post in every other thread to share their distain. It's not hundreds of people, its a select few. That is not to say that there are others who don't like it but choose to keep it to themselves.

The poll's here have not been horribly unfavorable to the C7 either. They have not been great but its not like the majority still hate it after the reveal. I'd also bet the poll's here are somewhat skewed in that some of those spamming this forum with their distain have also voted more than once under different user names. Of course that is just speculation though.

In contrast to what you have discovered, I've gotten the impression that the majority seem to have grown on it or liked it from the start. Perhaps not the vast majority but I suspect that more and more people will soften their stance once the see it first hand. Matter of fact, how many people who have seen the car first hand have not complimented the car?? Pretty much every first hand experience I have read was primarily praise.

That said, I am glad you know more than me. I guess I am entitled to my opinion as are you.

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