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Old May 21, 2015 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
I think the timing of the events is backwards. He/she probably did a series of turns to perfect the procedure as well as to create a "driving line" out of tire marks. Then the other two Mini's were placed. Then a 20th turn was made. They don't show you that.
Or you could just slide the mini into the space, then add the other two with CGI. You can't believe your eyes any more.
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Old May 21, 2015 | 11:04 AM
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My first car with four wheel disc brakes was a 1986 BMW. It had a cable operated parking brake which employed two additional and smaller brake mechanisms on the rear wheels only. It wasn't mean t to stop the vehicle, only hold it in place once parked.

I don't know the legality of a hydraulic parking brake, but I don't think a manufacturer would use it because loss of hydraulic pressure would release the brake present a potentially hazardous situation.

An e-brake replaces the manual handle with a switch and solenoid. I think the main advantage of the e-brake is smaller packaging and lower cost.

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Old May 21, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by theseal
is the handbrake even a separate brake anymore? or just software using the caliper and a button? if so, that's even WORSE.
It's a separate brake just like most cars. A small drum brake in the center of the rotor that is activated by a cable in the rear by a motor. Switch on the console works like the mechanical lever, up for on and down for off! When 17 year old grandaaughter wanted to drive a stick (she never had) taught her in the driveway. I kept my hand on the switch, it does work as emergency brake! She actually did fine.
My '34 street rod has disk brakes on all corners. Currie used an old Caddilac rear disk brake on the narrowed Ford 9 inch rear. It actually activates the disk brake piston mechanically. Cadillac used it only 1 or 2 years, it's next to useless!

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Old May 21, 2015 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by arkus
How would you take off from an incline when using a stick shift with the E brake .
C7 M7 has hill assist which holds you for 3 secs to give you time to do your thing works great
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Old May 21, 2015 | 01:42 PM
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For those that are not used to manual transmission, the feature is called Hill Start Assist.
(It's in the owners manual)

Assuming you are not using the clutch alone to hold position on the hill and have applied the brake....the computer will keep the brakes applied for up to 2 seconds after you take your foot off the brake pedal - working under the assumption you should be able to engage the clutch and obtain forward (uphill) movement within the 2 second time frame.
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Old May 21, 2015 | 03:27 PM
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I tried mine while moving on the highway the other day wondering about it before seeing this thread, if cruise is on it will kick it out and coast, tried holding it up and everything, won't lock all 4 like previous cts-v's, nothing happened, tried clutch in etc
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Old May 21, 2015 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ernest_T
My first car with four wheel disc brakes was a 1986 BMW. It had a cable operated parking brake which employed two additional and smaller brake mechanisms on the rear wheels only. It wasn't mean t to stop the vehicle, only hold it in place once parked.

I don't know the legality of a hydraulic parking brake, but I don't think a manufacturer would use it because loss of hydraulic pressure would release the brake present a potentially hazardous situation.

An e-brake replaces the manual handle with a switch and solenoid. I think the main advantage of the e-brake is smaller packaging and lower cost.
Hydraulic at speed, cable at rest. This would be to not break the cable by applying it at speed (or wear out the parking pads).

I think that is pretty standard, unless it ignores you at speed.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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I was playing with all my new gadgets & found that if you put the e-brake switch on & let the clutch out my car stalls... but if you put the e-brake on & release the e-brake switch without stepping on the brake pedal ,the brake will release upon clutch release. at least on my '014.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by arkus
How would you take off from an incline when using a stick shift with the E brake .
I'm with Bobbyosto.

Now that being said. In my driveway which is on an incline. I have a M7 Z. The HSA (Hill Start Assist) Kicks in. I don't like it as I have been driving manuals since day1 of learning to drive. I like my car to drift back in drive way so I can align the car to put it in. But I have to put in reverse for that to happen now. Uggh.

HSA will assist your driving skills.
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mtraylor2001
I'm with Bobbyosto.

Now that being said. In my driveway which is on an incline. I have a M7 Z. The HSA (Hill Start Assist) Kicks in. I don't like it as I have been driving manuals since day1 of learning to drive. I like my car to drift back in drive way so I can align the car to put it in. But I have to put in reverse for that to happen now. Uggh.

HSA will assist your driving skills.
Just wait for the HSA to release and you will roll back. No need to go to reverse.
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 07:08 AM
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Can't you turn off Hill Start Assist?
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LS3 MN6
Can't you turn off Hill Start Assist?
No.
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dvilin
No.
Well that sucks. I have it on my Focus ST, and I turned it off cause it's freaking annoying.

Stupid move GM, stupid move.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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I've been driving for 45 years, and the only automatic I've had as my primary car was my first: a hand me down from my Dad. I have no problem starting on hills without a hill holder assist. But the assist on the Stingray doesn't bother me at all. I drive normally, and when I start moving forward the hill holder feature releases. No need to rely on it. No big deal. Much of the time I don't notice it at all.

Find something more important to complain about.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:02 PM
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All the C7's with the 7 speed manual have hill hold, it works automatically when your on a incline. No need to use the e-brake.
Like someone else said, if you need the e-brake to take off on a hill, you shouldn't be driving a manual.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 11:37 PM
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I like hill assist because I'm uncoordinated, clumsy and have big feet.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LS3 MN6
Well that sucks. I have it on my Focus ST, and I turned it off cause it's freaking annoying.

Stupid move GM, stupid move.
I just don't see how that's annoying. I live on a hill and it is the best feature.
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