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Your definition of "significantly" must be off ... just sayin'.
Well 20hp and 25lb ft is pretty close to what the LS2 to LS3 change was and a lot of folks thought that was 'significant'. IMO the LT1 will be a lot more significant a change then that when the final numbers are in.
Finally ! Someone brought up the point I was going to.
Whether or not a reported $59K is the right price for this car isn't the only thing to discuss in this matter. The statement above wouldn't seem to align very well with a nearly $9k increase for the new C7 as reported by MT.
Why would I do that? I was just responding to this claim of yours:
ps. 0-60 under 4
C'mon you know thats the estimated time everybody and their mother threw out there even before the car came out. thats what they claimed when they LT-1 was introduced. Give me a real time with a real car at a real track with a real driver. I don't think you can.
difference is, 80k is still a lot of dough, and 25k isn't
unfortunately, quite true...how times have changed !
I remember buying a new car (a Pontiac 6000 STE sedan) in 1986 for $16K...thought I had completely
lost my mind for spending that kind of money. Ran the car for 12 yrs & 170K miles...go figure !
Finally ! Someone brought up the point I was going to.
Whether or not a reported $59K is the right price for this car isn't the only thing to discuss in this matter. The statement above wouldn't seem to align very well with a nearly $9k increase for the new C7 as reported by MT.
So, in the face of this entire thread, you still believe MT THAT IS the 9k diff you refer to!
unfortunately, quite true...how times have changed !
I remember buying a new car (Pontiac 6000 STE sedan) in 1986 for
$15K...thought I had completely lost my mind for spending that kind og money. Ran the car for 12 yrs & 170K miles...go figure !
and cars were even cheaper in the 70's
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Considering a nicely loaded pick-up truck is 50K, seems about right.....
...and skimpy on the truck rear. That skimpy truck is worth $50K, then the C7 will cost even much more. Maybe $60K may not be too far off. Just think, something like a 3LT or 4LT may be about $10K more on top of the $55 or $60K? I don't think that C7 base as shown in Detroit was the $55K or so model as is. My loaded 06 C6 A6 F55 NAV 3LT Dual tops was $57K, if what they showed "as is" and that is the $59K or so model, a bargin compared to mine. But I think that may be called a "base" C7 BUT with the upgraded version package ($60K + $10K or so). I feel that we are being "lulled" by GM on the estimated pricing that has been thrown out, $55K or $59K, to not run off too many on the edge of being able to barely afford this car. Many onlookers are really going to think that we are "rich" when many hard working people can hardly afford this car. Many wives, etc., are going to put the brakes on this deal, let's hope not.
Anyone who is complaining about a 59k price with this car is crazy. The car will have more power and performance than 95% of the members on here can handle (I'm included in that number). It has Ferrari like performance and exotic looks. I don't think you can get much better.
Corvette has always been high level of performamce for much less $$ that exotics. That goes without saying and it is not the subject of this discussion.
$59k base is way too high. That would be about a 20% increase over the 2013 Base car. GM thinks so too, so when the base MSRP price is announced it won't be as high as $59k.
Because the car is in the price range it is in, a $5-$6k higer base price ($59k vs $54k) will price the car out of a number of prospective buyers price range, causing some people to get upset because they can not afford the car.
In contrast increasing the base price on a Ferarri by $6k will mean nothiing to it's prospective buyers.
$5-$6k matters in the Corvette's price range and GM knows it.
... If it really was 59K (or anything close to it), then I would not buy it unless it was a way better performer than early estimates indicate it will be.
The real question here is how much more will it cost the The General to build it? There seems to be alot of higher end materials going into the base model. Between the frame, the interior, carbon fiber, updated SMC panels. Then there's the engine with it's steel crank, nodular main caps, poly coated bearings, 2000 psi fuel pump and related controls.
When they say, "If you could afford the current car, you can afford this one." Are they talking about the current base C6 1lt, or are they talking about the Grand Sport? I'm betting they mean the GS.
It won't be $70,000 but do you realize how much more car this is over our C6? Even if it was 70 it would be a comparative bargain.
Yes its still a bargain for what you get. but ...someone correct me if I'm wrong, most car companies that come out with new generations of their cars/ sports cars do not raise the price 20%. And I know there's been many advancements in the c7 compared to the c6, cost of materials, new tools to build it and all the new tech..maybe it's I'm comparing apples and oranges but you can get a cert 2011/12 z06 with 5-8k miles for 65k. Not that many to choose from at that price with those miles but they are there.
Corvette has always been high level of performamce for much less $$ that exotics. That goes without saying and it is not the subject of this discussion.
$59k base is way too high. That would be about a 20% increase over the 2013 Base car. GM thinks so too, so when the base MSRP price is announced it won't be as high as $59k.
Because the car is in the price range it is in, a $5-$6k higer base price ($59k vs $54k) will price the car out of a number of prospective buyers price range, causing some people to get upset because they can not afford the car.
In contrast increasing the base price on a Ferarri by $6k will mean nothiing to it's prospective buyers.
$5-$6k matters in the Corvette's price range and GM knows it.
This is only my opinion but if $5 to $6k puts a person out of the price range of a new Corvette. They may need to develop a new budget plan as their current one is not working for them.
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