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Old 02-12-2013, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
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I agree but it's still the large portion of info we have to go on!

PS: Edited my other post before I saw your response!
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Originally Posted by sesame60
Not much else because everyone is going to 6-cylinder engines and are proving you don't need a V8. Porsche is 6 cylinder with more weight and less HP/Torque but better straight line performance. Same for GTR.
Huh? A car with more weight AND less HP/torque is guaranteed to lose a straight line race. When compared to similar level models, Porsche has been losing virtually every straight line race against Corvettes since the 1950's.

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Originally Posted by Shifter6
This is what distinguishes the Corvette from any other performance/sport car. What else out there has a high hp v8 and weighs under 3200lbs. Not too much! Especially considering the price.

That’s why I bought my C6, low weight, balanced chassis, and high power. Fun all around.

Now the C7 is out, and the bottom line is, it looks great, obviously has the power and the balance, but..... What does it weigh???

Under 3200.... great!
Under 3300.... not bad!
Under 3400.... not too impressive.
Under 3500.... barely distinguishable from other v8 performance cars

IMO, the Corvette improves when it gets smaller and lighter. Look at the C5, dynamically no different than a C6, but the fact the C6 is smaller made all the difference in looks. The C5 and the C6 both distinguished themselves with high HP (relatively) and low weight.

For the C7 to be something special and continue the trend, high hp and fancy electric add-ons will not do it. It needs to be light enough to distinguish itself from all the other high hp options out there.
EXCELLENT POST! Agree 1000%.

What's also amazing is how heavy cars like Mustangs & Camaros are.
Both look like they should weigh at least 300lbs less than they do.

Blame the extra fat on safety & fuel economy gone insane.
Imagine what a new car would weigh without all-aluminum engines?
Old 02-13-2013, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 85scott
EXCELLENT POST! Agree 1000%.

What's also amazing is how heavy cars like Mustangs & Camaros are.
Both look like they should weigh at least 300lbs less than they do.

Blame the extra fat on safety & fuel economy gone insane.
Imagine what a new car would weigh without all-aluminum engines?
I understand that Obama just gave Texas to GM and also is giving GM a trillion dollars to develop a new breed of cow to be grown in Texas, that has thinner skin, in order to cut the weight of the interior on the C7. Of course, the ranch hands will be represented by the UAW.

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Originally Posted by 85scott
Huh? A car with more weight AND less HP/torque is guaranteed to lose a straight line race. When compared to similar level models, Porsche has been losing virtually every straight line race against Corvettes since the 1950's.


You get it. sesame60 sure doesn't.
Old 02-13-2013, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 85scott
Huh? A car with more weight AND less HP/torque is guaranteed to lose a straight line race. When compared to similar level models, Porsche has been losing virtually every straight line race against Corvettes since the 1950's.
Wrong.
Sometimes.

A peaky power curve, poor gearing, balky shifting, and poor traction; can put the more power/less weight car in second place.
Power and weight are the biggest issues, but not the only issues.



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