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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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I can tell you, it is a pretty sure thing that we will have one of the first programmers for the new E92 computer. Our contacts already have the code worked out for the DI Cadillac.

It will have new security parameters, but they should be easy to hack.

Our C7 will be first in line.

Also. Cool news from Pratt and Miller last week. They are making the new molds for the C7.R. I wonder how cool that will look. Maybe we can take some of the cues for the rear end from that car once it arrives. I have not seen any of their drawings but there is one out there that looks pretty cool.

Still looking for 490 to 500 HP when the SAE dyno is revealed. GM will flop if it is 450 HP. The reason is that they average 10 HP/Cylinder going from Port Injection to Direct Injection on the same displacement motor. 450 would be 1.5hp/cylinder. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

The Z06 will be FI for sure. I can tell you the hp will be stunning. Forget about the ZR1 for now. The Z06 will be King for a while.

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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Still looking for 490 to 500 HP when the SAE dyno is revealed. GM will flop if it is 450 HP. The reason is that they average 10 HP/Cylinder going from Port Injection to Direct Injection on the same displacement motor. 450 would be 1.5hp/cylinder. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

The Z06 will be FI for sure. I can tell you the hp will be stunning. Forget about the ZR1 for now. The Z06 will be King for a while.A[/QUOTE]



Are the 2 statements above actual knowledge based or best suppositions?
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Halltech
I can tell you, it is a pretty sure thing that we will have one of the first programmers for the new E92 computer. Our contacts already have the code worked out for the DI Cadillac.

It will have new security parameters, but they should be easy to hack.

Our C7 will be first in line.

Also. Cool news from Pratt and Miller last week. They are making the new molds for the C7.R. I wonder how cool that will look. Maybe we can take some of the cues for the rear end from that car once it arrives. I have not seen any of their drawings but there is one out there that looks pretty cool.

Still looking for 490 to 500 HP when the SAE dyno is revealed. GM will flop if it is 450 HP. The reason is that they average 10 HP/Cylinder going from Port Injection to Direct Injection on the same displacement motor. 450 would be 1.5hp/cylinder. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

The Z06 will be FI for sure. I can tell you the hp will be stunning. Forget about the ZR1 for now. The Z06 will be King for a while.

All good stuff.
My completely off the wall guess was 496hp. I'm certainly not putting any money on it tho.

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My completely off the wall guess was 496hp.


Which is true of all your guesses . . . . . GOTCHA
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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Which is true of all your guesses . . . . . GOTCHA
Hey!! I was right about lots of stuff! Who else spotted that the base C7 wouldn't have a rear anti-sway bar?

Well sure, I was wrong about some but I made a lot more guesses than other folks too!
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Hey!! I was right about lots of stuff! Who else spotted that the base C7 wouldn't have a rear anti-sway bar?

Well sure, I was wrong about some but I made a lot more guesses than other folks too!


And that's how we respectfully think of you = BlueOx, Full of Guesses
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Good to hear. I had read a lot about the E92 being a node and no one was having any luck with the PCM previously.
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"... 450 would be 1.5hp/cylinder. ..."

Huh? What am I missing here?
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Originally Posted by AORoads
"... 450 would be 1.5hp/cylinder. ..."

Huh? What am I missing here?

Is your nap over already ????

I believe what they are trying to convey is that an output of 450HP would only be an increase of approx 1.5 HP per cylinder over the C6 motor - and the more likely outcome of direct injection with the new motor would be a HP increase of 10 per cylinder, or closing in on the 500 mark
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Originally Posted by AORoads
"... 450 would be 1.5hp/cylinder. ..."

Huh? What am I missing here?
The non DI engine he's comparing it to?
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
And that's how we respectfully think of you = BlueOx, Full of Guesses
No Blue Ox = the Dali Lama of the C7 forum.
A true spiritual leader of Vette7 enlightenment.

The C7 will be a 465.

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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
And that's how we respectfully think of you = BlueOx, Full of Guesses
In the family, I'm referred to as GuessMaster.

Either way, I hope the OP is correct!

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The Z06 will be FI for sure. I can tell you the hp will be stunning. Forget about the ZR1 for now. The Z06 will be King for a while.


Jim, any more insight on this?
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Good info Jim!
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Originally Posted by AORoads
"... 450 would be 1.5hp/cylinder. ..."

Huh? What am I missing here?
12 more hp that the 6.2 LS3. 1.75hp/cyl. I was estimating based on GMs estimate.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Jim, any more insight on this?
We can all see the boost gauges. I am aware of the hp goal, but cannot go there.

The 490 to 500 is my own set of assumptions at play.
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
Is your nap over already ????

I believe what they are trying to convey is that an output of 450HP would only be an increase of approx 1.5 HP per cylinder over the C6 motor - and the more likely outcome of direct injection with the new motor would be a HP increase of 10 per cylinder, or closing in on the 500 mark
Correct. I have no special insight on the C7 base car, other than a reliable GM contact that quoted the 10hp/cylinder average.

I am guessing that the hold up is the number of C6 base cars sitting in the lots. 12 HP? No big deal to a potential customer. 50+ hp? Maybe a deal breaker. Politics and marketing at play. The SAE numbers should be released soon. If I am all wet, I'll shut up (for maybe a day)
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We will have the ultimate wheels for the C7 as well. One Piece 100% carbon fiber wheels by Carbon Revolution. They shed 65lbs on the ZR1.

Currently, only 8.5"X19 and 12"X19" will be available. Orders being taken for May delivery.

On our 2817lb Z06, we will drop 52lbs with the first set ever made for the Corvette.

We'll obviously see how these fit our C7.

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Originally Posted by Halltech
Correct. I have no special insight on the C7 base car, other than a reliable GM contact that quoted the 10hp/cylinder average.

I am guessing that the hold up is the number of C6 base cars sitting in the lots. 12 HP? No big deal to a potential customer. 50+ hp? Maybe a deal breaker. Politics and marketing at play. The SAE numbers should be released soon. If I am all wet, I'll shut up (for maybe a day)
Your reasoning makes a lot of sense. I would guess that more than a few CF members would overlook the detractions of the C7 (in their minds) for a fifty horsepower bump. I think that GM is holding back on much of the specifics to keep the marketing buzz going as well as keep the 13's moving off dealer lots.

BTW nice wheels
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Was said months ago when people guessing on leaked photos. That in no time the
vendors would have stuff ready to go before the car was. Your going to be able to
put whatever hood, read end, name it on the C7. Your also going to be able to make
your C6 look close to C7. Just wait will have new light pods, and a rear with C7 styled
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