C7 makes C6 obsolete
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You yourself were carrying on, in this thread, about the 911. And that's precisely the target GM's after with the Corvette. While I'm personally no fan of the VW-on-steriods, the car is undoubtedly a benchmark of sorts. And that's the benchmark GM wants to exceed with the Corvette. And Tadge has already made that public through interviews with magazines, etc.
The Viper is line noise to them. That won't stop magazines and fans of each marquee from comparing the two cars for however much longer FIAT allows the Viper to exist. But as I said, GM specifically doesn't care.
Need another hint? I posted this in another thread a while ago: http://bit.ly/12EWez1 The writer ran into Lutz at the Detroit show shortly after the C7 was introduced. Of the recent competition where the ZR1 had topped the Viper, the old man said:
He's giving you insight into what's going on in the minds of the Corvette team right there.
jas
The Viper is line noise to them. That won't stop magazines and fans of each marquee from comparing the two cars for however much longer FIAT allows the Viper to exist. But as I said, GM specifically doesn't care.
Need another hint? I posted this in another thread a while ago: http://bit.ly/12EWez1 The writer ran into Lutz at the Detroit show shortly after the C7 was introduced. Of the recent competition where the ZR1 had topped the Viper, the old man said:
He's giving you insight into what's going on in the minds of the Corvette team right there.
jas
For the record, I am not a great fan of 911, I have a lot of respect for it but not my cup of tea. I mentioned it to illustrate something that may be applied to more than one car, this one just came to my mind, I guess I could have used Morgan instead.
There are certain things ZR1 will never top, mainly the personal feel of the car and preference, to say ZR1 is visually and emotionally inspiring would be a considerable stretch. This is the biggest problem I see with all corvettes.
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Here's a fun and helpful hint: when you look around you and all you see is dirt....
...stop digging!
jas
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I don't mean to jump on this thread so late however, did you hear some of the Video topics?!?? It sounds like ALL details will be released in April.... Order forum, HP, weight, track times.. EVERYTHING....
BlueOx... What options are you getting on your C7? I might have to opt out of the Z51 to save a few bucks.
2LT, NPP,Carbon Dash, M7, Black on Black on Black, Clear top
BlueOx... What options are you getting on your C7? I might have to opt out of the Z51 to save a few bucks.
2LT, NPP,Carbon Dash, M7, Black on Black on Black, Clear top
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I don't mean to jump on this thread so late however, did you hear some of the Video topics?!?? It sounds like ALL details will be released in April.... Order forum, HP, weight, track times.. EVERYTHING....
BlueOx... What options are you getting on your C7? I might have to opt out of the Z51 to save a few bucks.
2LT, NPP,Carbon Dash, M7, Black on Black on Black, Clear top
BlueOx... What options are you getting on your C7? I might have to opt out of the Z51 to save a few bucks.
2LT, NPP,Carbon Dash, M7, Black on Black on Black, Clear top
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Calling Maximum Bob and Tadge out as both being delusional is a ballsy maneuver. I know what each man's resume looks like from an automotive perspective. What's yours look like? Whip it out.
Here's a fun and helpful hint: when you look around you and all you see is dirt....
...stop digging!
jas
Here's a fun and helpful hint: when you look around you and all you see is dirt....
...stop digging!
jas
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I'm not sure how or where I attempted to "flatter myself". Is it because I know of their respective automotive resumes? You could know it too, if you did a wee bit of research (ie: READ instead of POST).
I think your reading comprehension leaves a bit to be desired.
It's amazing that while you've never met either man, you seem to have an excellent view if their respective grasp on reality. You're basically insulting a paragon of North American automotive success, as well as the chief engineer of a car that he's helped craft into a significant powerhouse (see: Z06/ZR1).
So what have you done other than post baseless opinions on an Internet chat forum?
Am I falling for yet another CF troll? Can you possibly be this ignorant in reality? Are you destined to be plonked like a few other "luminaries" here? Hmmmm.
jas
I think your reading comprehension leaves a bit to be desired.
if you want to add touch of Europe to Corvette, you hire Europeans to get the job done, preferrably someone with some clue and touch with reality.
So what have you done other than post baseless opinions on an Internet chat forum?
Am I falling for yet another CF troll? Can you possibly be this ignorant in reality? Are you destined to be plonked like a few other "luminaries" here? Hmmmm.
jas
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Obsolete doesn't mean "not valuable" 
The C6 is getting tossed in the bushes though. Don't see why its a bad thing. Some on here will be stuck in denial mode until the numbers come out but I'm betting they won't be once its all said and done. Their trolling probably won't stop though. See said troll above.
The C6 is getting tossed in the bushes though. Don't see why its a bad thing. Some on here will be stuck in denial mode until the numbers come out but I'm betting they won't be once its all said and done. Their trolling probably won't stop though. See said troll above.
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I'm not sure how or where I attempted to "flatter myself". Is it because I know of their respective automotive resumes? You could know it too, if you did a wee bit of research (ie: READ instead of POST).
I think your reading comprehension leaves a bit to be desired.
It's amazing that while you've never met either man, you seem to have an excellent view if their respective grasp on reality. You're basically insulting a paragon of North American automotive success, as well as the chief engineer of a car that he's helped craft into a significant powerhouse (see: Z06/ZR1).
So what have you done other than post baseless opinions on an Internet chat forum?
Am I falling for yet another CF troll? Can you possibly be this ignorant in reality? Are you destined to be plonked like a few other "luminaries" here? Hmmmm.
jas
I think your reading comprehension leaves a bit to be desired.
It's amazing that while you've never met either man, you seem to have an excellent view if their respective grasp on reality. You're basically insulting a paragon of North American automotive success, as well as the chief engineer of a car that he's helped craft into a significant powerhouse (see: Z06/ZR1).
So what have you done other than post baseless opinions on an Internet chat forum?
Am I falling for yet another CF troll? Can you possibly be this ignorant in reality? Are you destined to be plonked like a few other "luminaries" here? Hmmmm.
jas
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Tadge did misspeak. I'm sure he wishes he could take it back. But let's face it, the C7 should be better than previous generations. Why build it otherwise?
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Obsolete doesn't mean "not valuable"
The C6 is getting tossed in the bushes though. Don't see why its a bad thing. Some on here will be stuck in denial mode until the numbers come out but I'm betting they won't be once its all said and done. Their trolling probably won't stop though. See said troll above.
The C6 is getting tossed in the bushes though. Don't see why its a bad thing. Some on here will be stuck in denial mode until the numbers come out but I'm betting they won't be once its all said and done. Their trolling probably won't stop though. See said troll above.
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jas
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