new Z28 to have naturally aspirated engine with 500HP, shouldn't the vette have more
03-27-2013, 09:35 PM
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Not really, the Gen V Camaro is in the middle of it's cycle before the redesign it completely. The Stingray is a completely new generation, and the 2014 is the base model, just a starting point so to speak.
03-27-2013, 09:39 PM
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This Z/28 is more than just a Camaro with an LS7 stuffed in it, read up on it. It's no joke. While its no flyweight, even with the much needed weight reduction, this car is going to surprise a lot of people on the track.
I'd expect road course times very close or possibly even better than C7 Z51 times. Two different cars, no doubt, but don't underestimate how capable this thing is going to be on the track.
I'd expect road course times very close or possibly even better than C7 Z51 times. Two different cars, no doubt, but don't underestimate how capable this thing is going to be on the track.
03-27-2013, 10:37 PM
#43
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Chevy is serious about this car as will be the people who buy them. Pirelli Trofeo R 305/19 on all four corners and the same carbon ceramic brakes as the ZR1/ Z07. Don't be surprised when you see one at the track that's been gutted, caged and it's pushing 600 HP. I hope this is an indication of what's to come for the next Z06.
03-27-2013, 10:44 PM
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Chevy is serious about this car as will be the people who buy them. Pirelli Trofeo R 305/19 on all four corners and the same carbon ceramic brakes as the ZR1/ Z07. Don't be surprised when you see one at the track that's been gutted, caged and it's pushing 600 HP. I hope this is an indication of what's to come for the next Z06.
Would be very happy to see more rides with the same brakes. Perhaps the price of pads will become more reasonable.
03-27-2013, 10:52 PM
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Chevy is serious about this car as will be the people who buy them. Pirelli Trofeo R 305/19 on all four corners and the same carbon ceramic brakes as the ZR1/ Z07. Don't be surprised when you see one at the track that's been gutted, caged and it's pushing 600 HP. I hope this is an indication of what's to come for the next Z06.
03-28-2013, 12:56 AM
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Chevy is serious about this car as will be the people who buy them. Pirelli Trofeo R 305/19 on all four corners and the same carbon ceramic brakes as the ZR1/ Z07. Don't be surprised when you see one at the track that's been gutted, caged and it's pushing 600 HP. I hope this is an indication of what's to come for the next Z06.
I also think a Z06 built like this would further differentiate it from the ZR1 model. Z06 = hardcore track model, ZR1 = gotta have it all super car. Two very different markets with not as much overlap as there is now.
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03-28-2013, 02:04 AM
#48
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GM lost that mentality of the corvette being on top of the HP pedastal when it introduced the CTS-V with a lot more power than the Z06 had
03-28-2013, 03:03 AM
#49
Drifting
The Camaro is the hot GM car right now.
03-28-2013, 03:07 AM
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03-28-2013, 03:10 AM
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03-28-2013, 07:01 AM
#52
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I finally disagree with you. The Z06 or ZR1 are not purpose built for the track, nor are the Z28 and SS Camaro, just the high end of the models. The LT1 is closer to a track production car then the others, so now the Camaro has 3 high performance models and I think there selling and will sell very well.
It makes sense that the high end Camaro would be better than the base model Dead Fish. I would buy an LT1 or Z28 before the C7, even with all it's options before I'd buy the Dead Fish = C7 base model. I'm sure the younger dudes might think the same! It's just personal preference - a hot car or a cold car
It makes sense that the high end Camaro would be better than the base model Dead Fish. I would buy an LT1 or Z28 before the C7, even with all it's options before I'd buy the Dead Fish = C7 base model. I'm sure the younger dudes might think the same! It's just personal preference - a hot car or a cold car
Joe, apologies, but I must disagree with you.
Quote": While the new Camaro Z/28 is not intended to compete in a specific race series, it is solely focused on track capability. In initial testing, the Camaro Z/28 is three seconds faster per lap than the Camaro ZL1. That extra speed comes from three areas:
• Increased grip: The Z/28 is capable of 1.05 g in cornering acceleration, due to comprehensive chassis revisions
• Increased stopping power: the Z/28 features Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes capable of 1.5 g in deceleration, and consistent brake feel, lap after lap
• Reduced curb weight: The naturally aspirated Z/28 weighs 300 pounds less than the supercharged Camaro ZL1, with changes ranging from lightweight wheels to thinner rear-window glass"
Plus, radio and A/C delete, and this IS an intended track car, although it may not be used as such by most who buy it and will solely be disappointed to use it as a DD like the SS and ZL1.
I LOVE seeing Chevy pull out all of the tricks they can to keep up with Ford, et al. Way to be GM. Keep the hits rolling with the C7 "performance" models.
03-28-2013, 10:12 AM
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Joe, apologies, but I must disagree with you.
Quote": While the new Camaro Z/28 is not intended to compete in a specific race series, it is solely focused on track capability. In initial testing, the Camaro Z/28 is three seconds faster per lap than the Camaro ZL1. That extra speed comes from three areas:
• Increased grip: The Z/28 is capable of 1.05 g in cornering acceleration, due to comprehensive chassis revisions
• Increased stopping power: the Z/28 features Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes capable of 1.5 g in deceleration, and consistent brake feel, lap after lap
• Reduced curb weight: The naturally aspirated Z/28 weighs 300 pounds less than the supercharged Camaro ZL1, with changes ranging from lightweight wheels to thinner rear-window glass"
Plus, radio and A/C delete, and this IS an intended track car, although it may not be used as such by most who buy it and will solely be disappointed to use it as a DD like the SS and ZL1.
I LOVE seeing Chevy pull out all of the tricks they can to keep up with Ford, et al. Way to be GM. Keep the hits rolling with the C7 "performance" models.
Quote": While the new Camaro Z/28 is not intended to compete in a specific race series, it is solely focused on track capability. In initial testing, the Camaro Z/28 is three seconds faster per lap than the Camaro ZL1. That extra speed comes from three areas:
• Increased grip: The Z/28 is capable of 1.05 g in cornering acceleration, due to comprehensive chassis revisions
• Increased stopping power: the Z/28 features Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes capable of 1.5 g in deceleration, and consistent brake feel, lap after lap
• Reduced curb weight: The naturally aspirated Z/28 weighs 300 pounds less than the supercharged Camaro ZL1, with changes ranging from lightweight wheels to thinner rear-window glass"
Plus, radio and A/C delete, and this IS an intended track car, although it may not be used as such by most who buy it and will solely be disappointed to use it as a DD like the SS and ZL1.
I LOVE seeing Chevy pull out all of the tricks they can to keep up with Ford, et al. Way to be GM. Keep the hits rolling with the C7 "performance" models.
That means it's as heavy as the base car is. Still a fat overwrought Pig.
03-28-2013, 10:38 AM
#55
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You might want to look at the Nurburgring lap times before you make any bets on that statement. The ZL1 beat all Corvettes without Cup tires. No question about a drag race, but a road race could be your nemesis.
03-28-2013, 10:48 AM
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I can afford a new Z28 but it is NOT a Corvete. It is simple. If you are a Corvette person that is your car. Which car is fastest, which does quicker laps, all that has no bearing on my purchase. I am a Corvtte person who enjoys the social aspects, the history and the mystique .
03-28-2013, 11:03 AM
#58
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You can see the lap times at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eife_lap_times
There were a couple of ZR1s that beat the ZL1, but I don't recognize the tires used on those runs. The dates would probably rule out Cup Tires. I would imagine the tires on those ZL1s were non=stock or they wouldn't have mentioned them.
There were a couple of ZR1s that beat the ZL1, but I don't recognize the tires used on those runs. The dates would probably rule out Cup Tires. I would imagine the tires on those ZL1s were non=stock or they wouldn't have mentioned them.
03-28-2013, 11:37 AM
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You can see the lap times at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eife_lap_times
There were a couple of ZR1s that beat the ZL1, but I don't recognize the tires used on those runs. The dates would probably rule out Cup Tires. I would imagine the tires on those ZL1s were non=stock or they wouldn't have mentioned them.
There were a couple of ZR1s that beat the ZL1, but I don't recognize the tires used on those runs. The dates would probably rule out Cup Tires. I would imagine the tires on those ZL1s were non=stock or they wouldn't have mentioned them.
I do think the ZL1 could definitely hang with an early Z06 with it's crappier tires on the ring, but that's about it. And that's pretty damn impressive to me considering the weight of that car. I'm really interested to see what the Z/28 will do, I expect very impressive numbers (low 7:30's at least)
03-28-2013, 11:45 AM
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I can afford a new Z28 but it is NOT a Corvete. It is simple. If you are a Corvette person that is your car. Which car is fastest, which does quicker laps, all that has no bearing on my purchase. I am a Corvtte person who enjoys the social aspects, the history and the mystique .