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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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Yes, there is a reason, explained in the first post, not to come up with off the wall results like you just did. You may want to notice that 99 pounds savings refer to STEEL frame, not aluminum, just for starters
He started with coupe weight, so he did subtract 99 from the steel frame weight.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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I have yet to make any judgments for weight prediction, that is one ring I will not throw my hat into. I simply corrected your prediction that you obtained from your figures.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gs_M6
I have yet to make any judgments for weight prediction, that is one ring I will not throw my hat into. I simply corrected your prediction that you obtained from your figures.
Well, thank you for your correction. Now, all we have to do is wait and see, should be interesting to find out who was closer. Please make sure to stop by when the actual weight is finally announced. Since there is a 45 day limit on threads staying open, let us hope the thread will be still open by then.
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Originally Posted by petermj
I already stated there is no weight difference between convertible and hatchback.
I don't understand. Can you source this?
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Magnesium suspension parts too. Don't have a clue how much that reduced weight, but what's important about that is the weight that was reduced came off the outside corners of the car.

I predict that the base C7 coupe is going to come it around 3190.
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Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
Magnesium suspension parts too. Don't have a clue how much that reduced weight, but what's important about that is the weight that was reduced came off the outside corners of the car.

I predict that the base C7 coupe is going to come it around 3190.
I agree
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Coupe 3344 pounds.

Chevy so far only says the C7 will have a better power to weight ratio than the 911 Carrera or the Audi R8.

From AutoBlog:

"99 pound frame weight reduction. Those weight savings are important, because in order to meet ever-stricter crash regulations, develop a much richer interior and add performance, some weight had to be added back in the form of new equipment. Counterintuitively, Chevy tells Autoblog that if its engineers didn't have to care about fuel economy, the C7 would actually be lighter.

The new small block incorporates features like direct injection, variable-valve timing and cylinder deactivation ("Active Fuel Management") trickery, all of which adds weight. The new engine management hardware alone adds 35 pounds, plus there's a further 5.5 pounds for the AFM exhaust valves (so the engine doesn't sound objectionable when operating in V4 mode), another 15 or so pounds for the steel torque tube to help improve drivability with AFM, etc.), and so on. Surprisingly good fuel consumption figures have become something of a hallmark in recent generations, and it was a top priority to preserve that leadership in the new generation.

So the new C7 figures to weigh more-or-less the same as the C6, but engineers says they've taken pains to locate the weight in the right places to ensure 50/50 weight distribution. That means splurging on things like the carbon roof and hood panels to assure a lower center of gravity, but also means using lighter sheet-molded compound for the fenders, doors and rear quarters, not to mention advanced carbon-nano composite underbody panels. Together, those changes account for a weight loss of around 37 pounds."

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Originally Posted by B747VET
Coupe 3344 pounds.

Chevy so far only says the C7 will have a better power to weight ratio than the 911 Carrera or the Audi R8.

From AutoBlog:

"99 pound frame weight reduction. Those weight savings are important, because in order to meet ever-stricter crash regulations, develop a much richer interior and add performance, some weight had to be added back in the form of new equipment. Counterintuitively, Chevy tells Autoblog that if its engineers didn't have to care about fuel economy, the C7 would actually be lighter.

The new small block incorporates features like direct injection, variable-valve timing and cylinder deactivation ("Active Fuel Management") trickery, all of which adds weight. The new engine management hardware alone adds 35 pounds, plus there's a further 5.5 pounds for the AFM exhaust valves (so the engine doesn't sound objectionable when operating in V4 mode), another 15 or so pounds for the steel torque tube to help improve drivability with AFM, etc.), and so on. Surprisingly good fuel consumption figures have become something of a hallmark in recent generations, and it was a top priority to preserve that leadership in the new generation.

So the new C7 figures to weigh more-or-less the same as the C6, but engineers says they've taken pains to locate the weight in the right places to ensure 50/50 weight distribution. That means splurging on things like the carbon roof and hood panels to assure a lower center of gravity, but also means using lighter sheet-molded compound for the fenders, doors and rear quarters, not to mention advanced carbon-nano composite underbody panels. Together, those changes account for a weight loss of around 37 pounds."
So lets see here, 99 pounds taken out of the frame. Add 35 pounds, plus 15, plus 5.5 and that comes out to 55.5 pounds. So 99-55.5 is 43.5 pounds. then add 37 to the 43.5 since all the lighter body panels save 37 pounds, and you got a weight savings of 80.5 pounds over the current C6. Then add some back for the upgraded interior. It'll be very close to the same weight as the current C6. It'll probably be 20-30 pounds lighter MAYBE. I'm guessing idk. This wait is horrible...
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So lets see here, 99 pounds taken out of the frame. Add 35 pounds, plus 15, plus 5.5 and that comes out to 55.5 pounds. So 99-55.5 is 43.5 pounds. then add 37 to the 43.5 since all the lighter body panels save 37 pounds, and you got a weight savings of 80.5 pounds over the current C6. Then add some back for the upgraded interior. It'll be very close to the same weight as the current C6. It'll probably be 20-30 pounds lighter MAYBE. I'm guessing idk. This wait is horrible...
That's what GM and mag writers are saying, but folks want to cling to a miraculously low weight fantasy. Except for the Enzo at 3,000 and $1,000,000, most all cars that are GTs are between 3300 & 3500. The C7 will probably be roughly the C6 weight give or take 70 pounds.
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Still one of the best peformance to cost ratios out there I believe.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77
Still one of the best peformance to cost ratios out there I believe.
STILL is the key, assuming it is STILL there.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by B747VET
Coupe 3344 pounds.

Chevy so far only says the C7 will have a better power to weight ratio than the 911 Carrera or the Audi R8.

From AutoBlog:

"99 pound frame weight reduction. Those weight savings are important, because in order to meet ever-stricter crash regulations, develop a much richer interior and add performance, some weight had to be added back in the form of new equipment. Counterintuitively, Chevy tells Autoblog that if its engineers didn't have to care about fuel economy, the C7 would actually be lighter.

The new small block incorporates features like direct injection, variable-valve timing and cylinder deactivation ("Active Fuel Management") trickery, all of which adds weight. The new engine management hardware alone adds 35 pounds, plus there's a further 5.5 pounds for the AFM exhaust valves (so the engine doesn't sound objectionable when operating in V4 mode), another 15 or so pounds for the steel torque tube to help improve drivability with AFM, etc.), and so on. Surprisingly good fuel consumption figures have become something of a hallmark in recent generations, and it was a top priority to preserve that leadership in the new generation.

So the new C7 figures to weigh more-or-less the same as the C6, but engineers says they've taken pains to locate the weight in the right places to ensure 50/50 weight distribution. That means splurging on things like the carbon roof and hood panels to assure a lower center of gravity, but also means using lighter sheet-molded compound for the fenders, doors and rear quarters, not to mention advanced carbon-nano composite underbody panels. Together, those changes account for a weight loss of around 37 pounds."
Maybe GM meant 50/50 chance of claims coming true? As it is, this part would be true.
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