Now that pricing is out how long will it take to pick one up used for $42-45k?
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#22
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By the end of June, while some dealers were still try to screw the buyer, most dealers were down to MSRP, and some were $1,000 under MSRP. I signed the contract on mine(1998 MY) in early August, 1997 for $1,000 under MSRP. Used C5's were selling very close to MSRP for quite a while, as there were not that many new C5's sitting on the dealer's lots.
I'm not predicting that for the C7 though.
I know of one C5 that went through three dealers before it was sold to the retail customer in early 1997. Each dealer made a profit on the car, and the car went to the retail customer on the original MSO.
Last edited by JoesC5; 04-29-2013 at 07:49 PM.
#23
That was back then, this is now. The iPhone was selling like hotcakes back then too. People learn. A $40k car is easily affordable to most people while a $55-$70k car isn't. A little boost in price can mean a big difference and added insurance cost. Look at the ZR1, GT-R, Viper, etc.. how many of those do they sell?
I bet you as the hype dies down, used resell value of the car will also go down. I wish it can maintain a good value as I do not want a car I paid $75k to be worth $50k in one year.
I bet you as the hype dies down, used resell value of the car will also go down. I wish it can maintain a good value as I do not want a car I paid $75k to be worth $50k in one year.
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#25
Team Owner
That was back then, this is now. The iPhone was selling like hotcakes back then too. People learn. A $40k car is easily affordable to most people while a $55-$70k car isn't. A little boost in price can mean a big difference and added insurance cost. Look at the ZR1, GT-R, Viper, etc.. how many of those do they sell?
I bet you as the hype dies down, used resell value of the car will also go down. I wish it can maintain a good value as I do not want a car I paid $75k to be worth $50k in one year.
I bet you as the hype dies down, used resell value of the car will also go down. I wish it can maintain a good value as I do not want a car I paid $75k to be worth $50k in one year.
My 5 year old Z06 had a MSRP of $80,015, and I doubt if I can get over $45,000(if that much) in a trade in for any car, including a Volt.
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1LT Base will be in the $42k - $45k as soon as it becomes used.
Dealers will go a couple grand below MSRP a few months after launch so you are talking about a $5k difference in price.
Most people will pay $3-4k more for a brand new one, so a used one will have to be below that threshold.
Dealers will go a couple grand below MSRP a few months after launch so you are talking about a $5k difference in price.
Most people will pay $3-4k more for a brand new one, so a used one will have to be below that threshold.
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More people buy the base model than you think.
New 2013's were being sold for $38K or $35k with owner loyalty.
Also, 54% of base coupes and 52% of base convertibles in 2013 were 1LT. There are plenty of people that will buy the base 1LT model. It is the most practical way to get in to a vette.
Dealers can ask whatever they want, asking price != selling price.
New 2013's were being sold for $38K or $35k with owner loyalty.
Also, 54% of base coupes and 52% of base convertibles in 2013 were 1LT. There are plenty of people that will buy the base 1LT model. It is the most practical way to get in to a vette.
Dealers can ask whatever they want, asking price != selling price.
You will not see that many 1LT cars ordered for stock by dealers.
1. Most 1LT cars were stocked by dealers who only stock a few Vettes.
2. Chevrolet has 3400 dealers and only 900 will be selling the C7
3. With the car being new model it isn't in the dealers best interest to stock a 1LT car. They make more money stocking a loaded car.
4. A current Corvette owner that has a 2-3LT car isn't going backwards in equipment.
5. As JoesC5 said back in 97-98 used C5's were selling at or above MSRP. The C7 will not sit in showrooms unless dealer markups are 5K over sticker.
Last edited by Corvette ED; 04-29-2013 at 10:19 PM.
#28
I'm "Apache" a psycho dog
Late fall 2014. After the 2015 models start being ordered, some 12 month leases are up, dealers start selling their demo's, people get sick of the ergonomics of a sports car, back problems, hip, knee problems, divorce, death, birth, pregnancy, unemployment, marriage, kids, college tuition, dental work, breast augmentation, retirement, insanity, sanity, and anything else I forgot that will cause some people to sell.
#29
First off 2013's selling for 38K with owner loyalty etc isn't going to happen on the C7 The C7 will not have any rebates or programs for a few years. Get use to list or above.
You will not see that many 1LT cars ordered for stock by dealers.
1. Most 1LT cars were stocked by dealers who only stock a few Vettes.
2. Chevrolet has 3400 dealers and only 900 will be selling the C7
3. With the car being new model it isn't in the dealers best interest to stock a 1LT car. They make more money stocking a loaded car.
4. A current Corvette owner that has a 2-3LT car isn't going backwards in equipment.
5. As JoesC5 said back in 97-98 used C5's were selling at or above MSRP. The C7 will not sit in showrooms unless dealer markups are 5K over sticker.
You will not see that many 1LT cars ordered for stock by dealers.
1. Most 1LT cars were stocked by dealers who only stock a few Vettes.
2. Chevrolet has 3400 dealers and only 900 will be selling the C7
3. With the car being new model it isn't in the dealers best interest to stock a 1LT car. They make more money stocking a loaded car.
4. A current Corvette owner that has a 2-3LT car isn't going backwards in equipment.
5. As JoesC5 said back in 97-98 used C5's were selling at or above MSRP. The C7 will not sit in showrooms unless dealer markups are 5K over sticker.
While it is in the dealers best interest to sell options, gm will look at the percentages from idk how many years past to come up with a number of 1lts to make for the first model year c7.
I thought many of the standard equipment on the c7 1lt was similar to the c6 2lt?
But I agree that it will be list or above for the first year or two from the majority of dealers.
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If 54% of c6 sold last year were lt1 I would think gm would make around that percentage for the c7 unless the percentages for non optioned cars for the first model year c5, c6 were vastly different. those 1lts will be sold somewhere in the 900 dealers.
While it is in the dealers best interest to sell options, gm will look at the percentages from idk how many years past to come up with a number of 1lts to make for the first model year c7.
I thought many of the standard equipment on the c7 1lt was similar to the c6 2lt?
But I agree that it will be list or above for the first year or two from the majority of dealers.
While it is in the dealers best interest to sell options, gm will look at the percentages from idk how many years past to come up with a number of 1lts to make for the first model year c7.
I thought many of the standard equipment on the c7 1lt was similar to the c6 2lt?
But I agree that it will be list or above for the first year or two from the majority of dealers.
#34
Melting Slicks
Dealers are going to load up the early C7s with all the options to maximize profit. I don't expect you'll see a new C7 sell anywhere near the base price for a while. So the starting point for C7 depreciation will be higher than you might expect.
#35
If you pay MSRP for a Vette, you are a complete tool and you are just throwing your money away.
I have no idea why you guys don't think that one of these big dealers, that are selling 2013's for 10k+ off a grandsport, are not going to discount a 2014 to clear out there HUGE allocations.
Truth is, you likely could get money off MSRP now...
I have no idea why you guys don't think that one of these big dealers, that are selling 2013's for 10k+ off a grandsport, are not going to discount a 2014 to clear out there HUGE allocations.
Truth is, you likely could get money off MSRP now...
#36
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If you pay MSRP for a Vette, you are a complete tool and you are just throwing your money away.
I have no idea why you guys don't think that one of these big dealers, that are selling 2013's for 10k+ off a grandsport, are not going to discount a 2014 to clear out there HUGE allocations.
Truth is, you likely could get money off MSRP now...
I have no idea why you guys don't think that one of these big dealers, that are selling 2013's for 10k+ off a grandsport, are not going to discount a 2014 to clear out there HUGE allocations.
Truth is, you likely could get money off MSRP now...
#37
Team Owner
First off 2013's selling for 38K with owner loyalty etc isn't going to happen on the C7 The C7 will not have any rebates or programs for a few years. Get use to list or above.
You will not see that many 1LT cars ordered for stock by dealers.
1. Most 1LT cars were stocked by dealers who only stock a few Vettes.
2. Chevrolet has 3400 dealers and only 900 will be selling the C7
3. With the car being new model it isn't in the dealers best interest to stock a 1LT car. They make more money stocking a loaded car.
4. A current Corvette owner that has a 2-3LT car isn't going backwards in equipment.
5. As JoesC5 said back in 97-98 used C5's were selling at or above MSRP. The C7 will not sit in showrooms unless dealer markups are 5K over sticker.
You will not see that many 1LT cars ordered for stock by dealers.
1. Most 1LT cars were stocked by dealers who only stock a few Vettes.
2. Chevrolet has 3400 dealers and only 900 will be selling the C7
3. With the car being new model it isn't in the dealers best interest to stock a 1LT car. They make more money stocking a loaded car.
4. A current Corvette owner that has a 2-3LT car isn't going backwards in equipment.
5. As JoesC5 said back in 97-98 used C5's were selling at or above MSRP. The C7 will not sit in showrooms unless dealer markups are 5K over sticker.
There will be no shortage of dealers selling the C7. It just might not be all seven of the Chevrolet dealers that are located within 35 miles of your home that will be selling them.
After the initial consumer rush had subsided, GM will let the remaining dealers(ones that are willing to pony up the dollars for training and service tools) sell C7's.
Last edited by JoesC5; 04-30-2013 at 10:05 AM.
#38
First off 2013's selling for 38K with owner loyalty etc isn't going to happen on the C7 The C7 will not have any rebates or programs for a few years. Get use to list or above.
You will not see that many 1LT cars ordered for stock by dealers.
1. Most 1LT cars were stocked by dealers who only stock a few Vettes.
2. Chevrolet has 3400 dealers and only 900 will be selling the C7
3. With the car being new model it isn't in the dealers best interest to stock a 1LT car. They make more money stocking a loaded car.
4. A current Corvette owner that has a 2-3LT car isn't going backwards in equipment.
5. As JoesC5 said back in 97-98 used C5's were selling at or above MSRP. The C7 will not sit in showrooms unless dealer markups are 5K over sticker.
You will not see that many 1LT cars ordered for stock by dealers.
1. Most 1LT cars were stocked by dealers who only stock a few Vettes.
2. Chevrolet has 3400 dealers and only 900 will be selling the C7
3. With the car being new model it isn't in the dealers best interest to stock a 1LT car. They make more money stocking a loaded car.
4. A current Corvette owner that has a 2-3LT car isn't going backwards in equipment.
5. As JoesC5 said back in 97-98 used C5's were selling at or above MSRP. The C7 will not sit in showrooms unless dealer markups are 5K over sticker.
The $38K C6 was in response to dealers listing used 2012s and 2013s for $45-48K which is not true and if they did list them, they didn't sell them since a new one is 5-10K cheaper. The C6 sales history is not going to have anything to do with the C7.
1-3. Dealers aren't going to stock C7s for the first several months, they will all be sold orders. It would be in the dealers best interest to stock a range of models to appeal to buyers of different income levels and desires.
4. A 2LT C6 is the equivalent of a 1LT C7, so they might go "backwards" in equipment.
5. C5 sales history has nothing to do with the C7 as well since we now have forum dealers and an easy ability to shop around. Sure there will be people who pay markup, but not in the quantity of past generations.
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