Would you be mad if the next z06 was supercharged?
#22
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I'd prefer N/A, Centrifical Supercharged(I know, it isn't going to happen), or turbos over a PD blower.
it would make the decision to stay with the Z51 that much easier.
it would make the decision to stay with the Z51 that much easier.
#23
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I wouldn't be too upset if that was the case. I'd rather they still call it 'ZR1' if it's going to be supercharged (or turbocharged which is also a possibility) but either name will do.
Keep in mind that C4 ZR1 was NA.
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#26
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The Z06 has been the "track" car like the new Z28 Camaro. Naturally Aspirated tends do be the better track solution if for no other reason than a blower (or turbos) add weight were you don't want it. N/A also tends to have a more linear throttle response and less heat soaking issues for the track.
In my opinion, better to have a N/A Z06 and leave the forced induction for the ZR1 model.
In my opinion, better to have a N/A Z06 and leave the forced induction for the ZR1 model.
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I'd rather see a higher displacement NA Z and a FI ZR.
But as noted above, C4 ZR was NA. The C3 ZR was NA as well. But it would seem to draw a Z and ZR too close together (too similar) if they offered both and both were FI. Who knows, maybe they don't plan to offer both.
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It's pretty well known that while 2014's hot Corvette is the Z51, next years top model will have the supercharged LT4 version of the LT1. The only real mystery is what will it be called? It will fill the Z06's spot in the lineup but traditionally a Z06 has been a light and efficient track focused model. The LT4 car will be a fantastic car -but- with all the good stuff of the Z51 plus supercharger, intercooler, big wheels, tires, and brakes it will be heavier than a base Stingray. Even all CF body panels won't get it down to the weight of a base car. So the name Z06 would not be appropriate. And ZR1 should be reserved for the rumored big buck supercar model being considered in a few years. So here's hoping that they can come up with a great new name for this fantastic but not light 2015 model...maybe L88? Maybe in a few years when sales get slow they could do a NA CF body low-content model like the new Camaro Z/28. THAT would be the one to call Z06.
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I think the way gov regulation is going, I think the future of a bigger NA engine is limited. IMO it would make more sense for GM to do FI, seeing as if regulation changes they don't have to go back to the drawing board.
#31
This may be the case. I'm not sure what a 575HP NA car will do to GM's CAFE numbers. The super cars of the world just buy CAFE credits for the few cars they make.
#33
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Aho knows at this point which way Team Corvette will go. I'm not digging several things with the C7 Platform already - the design of the rear and that the car is heavier with an Aluminum frame and CF bothers me as those are ways the C6Z06 stayed so light.
A supercharger will just add additional weight that no Z06 buyer wants.
#34
I'd prefer the Z06 to be naturally aspirated.
If it was to be FI, I think the PD blower is by far the best because it has zero lag and the flattest torque curve (compared to cetrifugal S/C or Turbos).
The issue with the FI is the added weight and complexity.
-T
If it was to be FI, I think the PD blower is by far the best because it has zero lag and the flattest torque curve (compared to cetrifugal S/C or Turbos).
The issue with the FI is the added weight and complexity.
-T
#35
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Maybe, maybe not. They could be using the TTV6 as a model. It seems there is alot of technology put into that motor that could very easily transport into the Corvette's LT1.
#38
I'm not sure if it had been done before but could you imagine the technical challenges for enabling active fuel management/cyclinder deactivation, 4cyclinder mode running a super charger? At that point, I'm not sure if running 8cyclinder non-super charged would be more efficient than running 4cyc super charged. Someone will have to do a test on this! Or take out 4 cyclinder mode completely. Performance or not, I would still love to save gas.
#39
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Maybe if the engine was going to serve out its life on an engine dyno somewhere...but the problem is, it has to fit into the car and haul itself around. Packaging the turbos, inter-cooler, all the extra plumbing, etc., as well as dealing with the added radiant heat and the poorer, non-linear power response, all conspire against this "gee-whiz" solution. A TTV6 might fit, but a TTV8 is a much tougher proposition.
Such as? If the "technology" you're referring to is more cams and valves, then be aware of the weight and bulk that they would add to the engine...possibly eliminating it from use in an already-tight engine bay. Pretty much everything else in the TTV6 is already in the LT1.
My vote for a C7 "Z06" engine is a NA, larger-displacement version of the LT1. If it had all the same technology as the LT1, it would be nearly as good on gas while retaining the so-desirable "right now" power response of the LS7...and very minimal additional weight (mainly from the heavier crank).
My vote for a C7 "Z06" engine is a NA, larger-displacement version of the LT1. If it had all the same technology as the LT1, it would be nearly as good on gas while retaining the so-desirable "right now" power response of the LS7...and very minimal additional weight (mainly from the heavier crank).
#40
Here is my take on this. I have come from a 2003 Mustang Cobra (Supercharged) and a 2006 Dodge Viper SRT10 (supercharged). My move to the LS7 Z06 was because of my admiration of the vehicle in N/A form. My previous builds have all been boosted. This build, I want to be a N/A car with H/C/I. I realize that the car will probably not be the faster out there but I feel I can use the power I make N/A in a much better way on the street then I did with my previous cars. I don't think I will be upset if the next Z06 will be boosted.
It would just mean that the LS7 Z06 would be that much more exclusive.
It would just mean that the LS7 Z06 would be that much more exclusive.