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Old May 18, 2013 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HurricaneRN
Should be like any passive RFID, the radio signal comes from the car and powers the passive circuit then the coded response is sent with the signal boosted by the fob battery. The car is transmitting continuously but the fob should not.
Neither the car, nor the fob transmits continuously. Only when requested.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bigswiss89
i didn't know that. i learned something new about my c6 today
You will have to program the system. Off hand I do not know the default setting. I programmed mine to lock and unlock automatically when I come and go. I got a surprise this past winter. When cleaning the inside windows I placed the FOB on the floor by the door. Evidently the car didn't recognize the FOB due to it's position. I closed the door so the side window would cycle up. The car thought I had gone and locked me inside. There is absolutely no electric power to anything. Well I reached down and pulled the door release handle, the door opened and the alarm sounded. I had never pulled the door release before I pulled it with authority, you don't have to yank it, felt like I almost ripped it from the floor.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
What if it came with The Clapper?
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MV Now hear this the new C7 comes equipped with the Clapper control system.

System operation:
One clap - opens doors
Two claps - starts engine
Three claps - shuts engine down
Four claps - locks car doors

It is a rainy Sunday.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by speedlink
Neither the car, nor the fob transmits continuously. Only when requested.
So the door does not unlock until you grab the door to open it? If it can lock itself when you walk away and unlock when you walk up to it there is a signal in the air all the time.

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The car door unlocks when it identifies the FOB. The light on top of the door signifies when locking/unlocking occurred. See operators manual. The car must transmit a signal continuously awaiting FOB reply. I don't see how else it would work. The FOB battery lasts about two/three years, if it was transmitting continuously it couldn't last that long. The car's battery only will last about three weeks without a charge. When you push the door/rear hatch unlock, the FOB then must transmit a signal. Anyway works fine, lasts a long time.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteLT193
This started in 1993. passive keyless entry is what they called it. It got annoying for some (probably didn't read the manual because all you had to do to toggle passive/off was by holding the door lock button until the locks cycled) so when the C5 came out the key fob had a switch on it. In 2000 it was removed as a feature only to find its way back with the C6.
It worked pretty well on the C5. However, when you parked the car in your garage you had to have the key fob quite a distance away from the car to avoid the car going crazy. My two story Colonial wasn't large enough to get the key fob far enough away. Car would sit in the garage beeping the horn, locking and then unlocking the doors Turned the fob switch off and the problem was solved but lost a nice feature.

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Originally Posted by Snorman
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Fixed it ....................
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Old May 19, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Darn! I will be unlocking my car when I turn off the bedroom lights.
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The car door unlocks when it identifies the FOB. The light on top of the door signifies when locking/unlocking occurred. See operators manual. The car must transmit a signal continuously awaiting FOB reply. I don't see how else it would work. The FOB battery lasts about two/three years, if it was transmitting continuously it couldn't last that long. The car's battery only will last about three weeks without a charge. When you push the door/rear hatch unlock, the FOB then must transmit a signal. Anyway works fine, lasts a long time.
I believe the car does not continuously transmits a signal. When you push the door button the car sends out a signal. If the FOB responds correctly the door will open. When the car is off and a door is opened the car will check for a FOB inside the car. If at least one FOB is missing the car will lock when the door is closed.
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Originally Posted by HurricaneRN
So the door does not unlock until you grab the door to open it? If it can lock itself when you walk away and unlock when you walk up to it there is a signal in the air all the time.
Almost got it. It only transmits about 180 ft. When you touch the door sensor it checks for the presence of a FOB.If it detects it, it opens. So the car and FOB only transmit when asked to.

Hope that helps. Do a search for the C6 owners manual. It will expplain. I believe the C7 will operate similarly.
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Originally Posted by HurricaneRN
So the door does not unlock until you grab the door to open it? If it can lock itself when you walk away and unlock when you walk up to it there is a signal in the air all the time.
The conversation between the car and the fob is initiated by grabbing the door handle. There is no signal in the air as you approach the car.

The car "locks" again when you walk away based on a simple 8-second timer. So you don't actually have to walk anywhere - it will "lock" with you standing next to it. No signal in the air.

It's an elegant system. I like it a lot more than the fussy Toyota one with its screwy external door lock buttons and constant transmitter polling.

I put "locks" in scare quotes because it's just a software state; there is no mechanism that moves in order to "lock" the door. For a C6 to be locked, it just means that the computer requires a fob response from outside the car when an exterior door handle is pulled, or else it won't energize the door release.

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IMHO. I like the feature. Never take the keys out of my pocket.
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Full operation explanation is now available in a GM video:


There is a physical emergency key hidden in the transmitter. It unlocks the back hatch, which gives access to a driver door unlock lever.
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Originally Posted by HurricaneRN
So the door does not unlock until you grab the door to open it? If it can lock itself when you walk away and unlock when you walk up to it there is a signal in the air all the time.
The car only transmits when a button is pressed. A lock or unlock button on the fob, the door button, the rear hatch button or the start button all qualify.

The car locks itself based on a timed sequence. It does not always transmit.

It "unlocks" with a very rapid communication sequence that starts when the door handle is grabbed and culminates by releasing the door mechanism.
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Originally Posted by Snorman
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Guess ya take it to the clinic for shots ............
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Same set up as we now have in the C6. Same fob body except for the addition of the remote start button for the A6 and the power up/down button for the vert.
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Originally Posted by CaryKen
Full operation explanation is now available in a GM video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gfWjAJfeb0

There is a physical emergency key hidden in the transmitter. It unlocks the back hatch, which gives access to a driver door unlock lever.
informative, thanks for posting.
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Originally Posted by Greg00Coupe
Yes and no. I have it on my 05 Cadi. I'm sure its the same as with the Corvette. These obviously is an antenna and the fob is constantly transmitting. I've be trying to fix a problem with the Cadi (system broke) and it is not cheap to repair. Coupled with then need to replace fob batteries more often because its always transmitting........... I'll take a traditional fob system over the no need to push buttons system. It's like voice recognition, an overkill.
Please let's not start this thread going again. The FOB does not continually transmit. Only when it needs to and you are in range.
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IMHO. I like the feature. Never take the keys out of my pocket.
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