You can feel that way about your 2008 if you want to. But at the lights, the stock 2014 A6 'IS' faster than the M7 all other things being equal. Tadge even admitted it.

 

This is the first comprehensive test I've seen of a C7 Automatic.

Chris Harris just tested the C7-Z51-Mag-A6 vs the 911 CS-PDK and said the Corvette's A6 is "Pretty Terrible" at 2:05 in the video. That is really the one thing that he said that was flat out negative. He said "don't get it" regarding the transmission. Other than that he liked the C7.

Very disappointed, since I'd like to get an Auto so other family members can drive it. Does anyone else has track time on the C7 A6 and can comment on upshift/downshift speed or lag in paddle mode?

See video below:

 

You should read what I posted then comment!
I said the auto has the better 60ft and that is what it is.
That means at a stop light.
Reason being you can't give enough gas to the manual to hang with the auto OUT OF THE HOLE without the computer pulling timing
designed in by GM.
When your racing an Auto the game is to use enough gas and traction to stay up close.
Then when you get hooked you should be able to pull by if you can drive well.
Show me now where the auto is faster with a
30-150 roll down.
I don't think it is with a good driver on the stick!
Let me guess you bought your first Corvette and it is an auto!
Nothing wrong with one but not for me in a sports car. My taco pick-up has one.

 

When I was shopping to buy my GS, I was 100% certain that I would get a manual. On the C6 it was a $1,200 option to get an auto. If GM offered the auto as standard and the manual for $1,200 I would have paid it to get the manual. If I were faced with traffic jams daily I'd still have gotten the manual. That's just me.

I personaly believe that guys who are on the fence stand a greater chance of transmission remorse if they get the manual. I was shocked recently to learn that aprox 65% of new 2013 Vettes left the factory with an auto. But them numbers don't lie as 2/3rds of owners want an auto.

Cliffs: Undecided? Auto.

 

You just need to decide for yourself based on how you will be using the car. If you have a lot of stop and go traffic to contend with, the A6 makes a lot of sense. You can still have a lot of fun with an automatic.

 

What he said! Unless your driving is frequent stop and go in heavy traffic I think you will enjoy the M7. I sat the fence for a while before ordering. Then I thought about the places and times I most enjoyed my C6 (M6) and realized that shifting was a significant part of it.

 

I still like shifting gears manually!

 

For myself, a manual transmission is the only way to go in a Corvette! To me, it makes the whole driving experience so much more fun! I would also feel this way with any sports or muscle car. My Corvette is my DD and even in heavy traffic, I find that is no burden.
BTW...the C7 manual is almost effortless...very easy clutch, smooth shifting and the rev match makes anyone real smooth.
Bottom line...it really depends what you prefer. With me the manual was a must!

 

 

Its not because Auto is faster its because Manual is not. When I have bought past sports cars it really wasn't a question to get Manual or Auto because manual was always hands down significantly faster. Maybe I am just still shell shocked from my stage 4 clutch in my previous car.

 

Thanks for the post. He seems to really dislike the A6.

 

And my point is, "So what?" I fail to understand a mindset that favors a fraction of a second in acceleration time over the overall nature of the driving experience. Do you really buy this car to be a tenth or two of a second quicker on a drag strip? Not only that, but the acceleration capabilities are so close that in most cases the "winner" is determined by the skill of the driver.

 

Apparently, speed floats your boat as opposed to the driving experience, so for you the car that is 1 tenth of a second faster will make you feel better.

One question-What does "its not because the auto is faster its because the manual is not" mean??

 

This statement alone tells me that you have very, very little experience actually racing (in the really real world, not on the internet or vicariously through somebody else's accomplishments). Both cars are going to have very similar trap speeds, while you think that you can peddle the manual car and "stay up close", you can't. The A6 is likely already gone and with similar trap speeds (on the street, at the track, through a field...wherever), you won't catch it. In fact, it'll still be pulling because it's already at higher speeds while the 7-speed car is not. To help you understand...at 5-seconds out, the A6 car would be moving at ~71-72 mph, while the M7 car may only traveling at 62 mph (a complete estimate), at 10-seconds, the A6 car will be at ~107-108 mph, while the M7 car (at 10-seconds after launching) probably still hasn't broken 100 mph. You'll never make up that lost interval because the M7 is not, in FACT, faster or quicker than the A6 car. When the A6 driver decides to let off the throttle, he's likely still pulling on the M7 car.
Show us where it's any slower.
S.

 

My C7 is my 10th 'Vette. I've had 4 manuals and 6 autos. I kept my '05 manual so wanted the new one as an auto so my wife can drive it on road trips, etc. This way I still have the manual version in the garage when I feel the need...both have their advantages and I don't feel the C7 auto is truly as bad as Harris leads one to believe. Other reviews seem to concur it's an improvement from previous years. Other than a potential small amount of a performance gain & fuel economy improvement I'm not sure the real advantage of the forthcoming 8 speed auto. Not enough difference to make me wait for it. If it has the start/stop I definitely am not interested. The 7th gear in the manual is basically overdrive so nothing that tempted me there either. There are always improvements and unless you upgrade cars every year you'll never catch up...

 

If your still talking 1/4 mile it goes to the Auto because of the 60 ft time like I keep saying but no one read see that.

The nannies GM installed in the manual tune slow it off the line. Which kill s the manual 60ft.

Look at Kyle's #3 time on the list.

Much slower 60 ft but faster trap
speed at the end that says if we take the 60 ft of the race and go a say second gear roll.
The result likely will differ. Show me where and how you know better!
The stick should take the Auto. You really can't compare your one off
time that even you or anyone else can't reproduce so far.

 

I'm not going to disagree with any of this. The superior short times of the A6 cars plays a big part.
But they don't slow down after they launch. Not one bit.
I've said repeatedly that my car "hiccupped" on the 2-3 shift. Look at the 1/8 mph speeds...my car was 1.10 mph faster at the 1/8th. On other passes (that were within .03 of the 11.49) same day, it trapped 120.05 and 120.22...both faster than Kyle's car. VNAMVET also trapped 120.17 at Bradenton (you know, somewhere other than Atco, MIR, Cecil or Etown).
That being said, even if one wanted to call that 118.96 trap speed kosher...do you really think .66 mph is significant?
Okay, let's do that:

At every single measured increment from the 60' light the M7 car is slower than not only my 11.49 pass, but my 11.51 pass and VNAMVET's 11.61 pass. From 330'-1000' and 1320' it's also slower than the A6 cars. On the back half, it's slower...albeit, only between .020 and .035...but it's not making up any ground. It's not catching the A6's, and that's what your claim was...that "give enough gas to the manual to hang with the auto OUT OF THE HOLE" and then "when you get hooked you should be able to pull by if you can drive well". Not happening. Period.

If you now want to say "a second gear roll". I have no idea what will happen, and neither do you. But I can say without hesitation that I have the data to support my opinion.

And you can stop with the "one off time" that even I "can't reproduce". I backed it up the same day with two more passes within .003 seconds of the 11.49. I also ran within .12 seconds at OSW and VNAMVET just went 11.61 at freaking Bradenton. That 11.49 will fall and somebody will run quite a bit quicker and faster in time.
S.

 

Snorman, I applaud your efforts. Unfortunately, it seems that facts don't work with this guy.


Cheers.

 

Facts don't work with lots of people around here.

S.

 

I always love these threads. The Auto is a blink (ok, two blinks) of an eye faster in a straight line than a manual. So what. Its a sports Car. Its about fun, the "driving experience". Not about how well I can aim/steer the Car in a straight line relative to the bozo in the "lane" next to me.