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Old May 20, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nyvetteguy007
Really??? Really???

Yes really second and third C7s TRUE. And several buy backs already.
Old May 20, 2014 | 11:16 PM
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It's true that there some risk.
Old May 20, 2014 | 11:22 PM
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Nothing wrong with waiting for the 15.

Some of the issues have also been self induced by GM employees (over filling oil, not filling diffs, etc...) So just a year of hands on experience with the new C7 and we won't see some of these issues on the 15. Hopefully many of the software bugs will be worked out as well.
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Originally Posted by TKay
There is an old saying that you never buy the first year of a remodeled car. You wait till the second year after they get the bugs worked out. Reading some of these posts, man, that may be very true. It seems there are lots of problem, to loose parts, excessive oil comsumption, oil leaking etc. Maybe it is working out in my favor that I am waiting for a 15.
Not sure if you're looking for people to validate your point or bragging.

I hope you enjoy your 2015 when it finally comes in. As the owner of a 2014 C7 Z51, I can only share my experience owning the Car.

I have had just one issue since I bought it back in December. The Clutch Master Cylinder went out at 900 Miles. I contacted OnStar, the Car was towed to the Dealer and a replacement Part was installed. I was given a Loaner Car and the Dealer, GM and even the OnStar Staff could not have been more accommodating.

The Part was overnighted and the Corvette Engineering people got involved. Since it was the first failure of the Part, the used Part was sent to them for evaluation. I will assume the Supplier of the Part got involved as well, since it was obviously something that missed Quality Control during the Manufacturing process.

Like any Car, first year or not, things break. I have owned many new Cars simply because I like the idea of having a Factory Warranty. It's part of my "Trust But Verify" belief system. Some had problems right out of the gate, others two years in. I have never experienced the mythical "First Year Curse", although it may be more than an Urban Legend to some people.

Personally, had I decided to wait for a 2015 C7 equipped the same as my 2014, it most likely would have cost me significantly more money.
I am happy with my choice and I hope you will be as happy with yours.

All of a sudden I have an urge to go watch the Pool / Baby Ruth Candy Bar scene from the Movie Caddyshack.
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Originally Posted by TKay
There is an old saying that you never buy the first year of a remodeled car. You wait till the second year after they get the bugs worked out. Reading some of these posts, man, that may be very true. It seems there are lots of problem, to loose parts, excessive oil comsumption, oil leaking etc. Maybe it is working out in my favor that I am waiting for a 15.
What a bunch of hooey. My car, #120, has been almost perfect.

I have had no problems for which I have had to return the car to the dealer other than a rattle in the driver's side door which was quickly remedied and no longer has been a problem. The only other item was the software reflash for the dim dash lights.

I returned my 2010 Mercedes S class to the dealer more times than that in it's the first year of ownership for small problems and it was the fifth year of that series' manufacture.

Troll.

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Originally Posted by RKInIL
Yes really second and third C7s TRUE. And several buy backs already.
Please find those posts...I know of one (out of 30,000)...not several.
Old May 20, 2014 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RKInIL
Your joking right? What about cars being sent back to the factory to be re paneled due to bad paint? Several blown motors, oil leaks, broken shocks, information screens not working or responding to touch. windshields cracking, trunks not closing properly, mis fit body panels. bad cams and more. Yes I have been keeping a list.
All the issues you listed could happen on ANY c7 regardless of year, it could happen to a 2018 C7.

Now when you find a major failure with all 2014 C7's, then you can say that's why you avoid first year Corvettes.

Originally Posted by Rad22
Please find those posts...I know of one (out of 30,000)...not several.
There's about to be two that you know of...
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Originally Posted by BERETTA
I had a 2005 C6 I had NO problems with it.
I am also VERY happy with the 1st year C7.
Me too, exactly, + a 2010 GS, all pretty much flawless.

I did have quite a few problems with my 2000 vert though. 3 model years in to the C5s...hmmm
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Old May 21, 2014 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rad22
Please find those posts...I know of one (out of 30,000)...not several.
here is one very strange one that comes to mind..You just dont make this stuff up.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ncm-today.html

One of many poped motors:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...r-problem.html

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Originally Posted by RKInIL
here is one very strange one that comes to mind..You just dont make this stuff up.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ncm-today.html

One of many poped motors:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...r-problem.html
The first case is the one that I am aware of.

The second case was not simply a "popped motor". The damage to that engine was caused by improper removal and reinstallation of the torque tube that was removed to replace a bad fuel sending unit (which can happen in any car, new model or longstanding). That motor failed secondary to an uninformed and apparently incompetent service technician at the dealership.
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From working in the industry, since 2000 your better off buying the first year.


The launch year gets a Consumer Reports review amongst other things, they do not review it again until there is a major change.


So from experience the first year is the most heavily contented and they get cheaper each year beyond launch year. You may not notice it but they do.


Soft plastics turn hard, soft materials suddenly get thinner, seats get shorter, aluminum bits turn into steel, switch gear gets cheaper, etc.


May not necessarily happen on a Corvette but it does on most non-premium brands.
Old May 21, 2014 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NoOne
From working in the industry, since 2000 your better off buying the first year.


The launch year gets a Consumer Reports review amongst other things, they do not review it again until there is a major change.


So from experience the first year is the most heavily contented and they get cheaper each year beyond launch year. You may not notice it but they do.


Soft plastics turn hard, soft materials suddenly get thinner, seats get shorter, aluminum bits turn into steel, switch gear gets cheaper, etc.


May not necessarily happen on a Corvette but it does on most non-premium brands.
Even if this "cheapening" thing is true on a few parts over subsequent model years, all the parts get a real world road test the first model year, which is why the second model year should be a better car. You don't have to be an engineer to figure this out. It's obvious.
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Life is short, didn't want to hold my breath for a 2015. I stalled off ordering to allow GM time to encounter and fix the line setup bugs. They built 16074 units before they got to mine. Solid as a rock and no problems with 16075 so far!
Old May 21, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Glen e
Hogwash, no more here than any other car if you look around.

5000 miles, 7 months in and not a single problem.

You are reading an enthusiast forum, expect to read problems.
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What was your experience with the 2005 Corvette? Seems thousands were very happy with it. BTW ANY car can have issues, they get identified and fixed.

I'm anxiously awaiting my 2014 C7. Are you?
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Originally Posted by RKInIL
here is one very strange one that comes to mind..You just dont make this stuff up.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ncm-today.html
That's not even a "real" buy back.
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
What was your experience with the 2005 Corvette? Seems thousands were very happy with it. BTW ANY car can have issues, they get identified and fixed.

I'm anxiously awaiting my 2014 C7. Are you?
My first year 2005 had lots of issues and was involved in two recalls and several TSB's. Dead Battery Syndrome, delaminating top, crank pulley bolt, bad speakers, muting radio, squealing brakes, defective hatch lock, plus a few others. It took about 2 years to get it all sorted out, after which it became totally reliable. So yes, my 2005 did have a slew of unique first year issues.

My 2009 vert had two recalls for the top, and also had one bad battery replaced. Overall, it had much fewer problems than my 2005.

I think at least some first year problems with the Vette are not unusual, and typically are worked out as the car moves through production changes and updates. This does not mean that everyone will have a problem, but I believe they tend to be more common than later years. CR reliability surveys will usually show this trend for many GM products.

This doesn't mean that anyone should avoid buying a first year Vette, but it shouldn't be a complete surprise if a trip or two to the dealer's service department may be required to sort an early build issue or two out.

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And after 30k I'd hope they've fixed the initial issues..
They will make a bunch of engineering changes in the 15 based on issues they have seen in the 14's. Most will be transparent to buyers.
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The way it works, is the first year C7 is total crap, even the last one built on August 8, 2014, but the very first 2015 built on August 11, without the line having shut down except for the weekend will be a flawlessly reengineered masterpiece

With every Corvette, except the C3, the later years of production have always been better cars (the C3 is the exception because who would say a 1980 with the 180 hp 5.0L and 3 speed auto (how it came) was a better car than a 1972 454 M22) that the year 1 or 2 cars.

GM did a lot of work on the manufacturing process over the 20 day shutdown during Christmas break, so those cars (about serial number 12,000 and later) seem to be better finished cars than the early builds.

Mine is a February 2014 build and it has been flawless so far (knock on wood).

If nobody bought year 1 cars, we'd all still be driving Model T's.
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go on any car forum any year any brand and their will be problems... you have the entire world discussing a single product so you will see more problems

the stingray is going to be my 16th car in 9 years.

the only car I had a lemon was a mid production cycle 750Li and a mid production cycle c240

I personally think the first production year thing is a myth. now more than ever



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