Shifter question
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Burning Brakes
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From: palm harbor Florida
Shifter question
I see that some people are putting in a MGW shifter again. I thought GM improved the old shifter mechanism and there were no problems with the new ones rattling. What's up with this?
Melting Slicks
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From: California
MGW has much shorter throws overall and that makes a firmer/crisper experience.
Melting Slicks
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Going into 7th though... feels about as firm as shifting a spoon in some oatmeal. I always second guess if it's in gear when letting out the clutch. :
Burning Brakes
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From: Cedar Rapids Iowa
I didn't have the manual in my C6, but I did put the MGW Shifter in my C7. I like it much better than the stock shifter (which was not too bad). It makes it easier to hit the gears, has shorter throws for quicker shifts, and is just a joy to use every time I drive it.
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I put a MGW shifter in my C6 and ended up taking it out. Everyone considering this modification should realize that there is NO free lunch. The MGW DOES shorten shift throws but that comes at the expense of higher shift effort. For me, the trade off was not worth it, for many others, the shorter throws outweigh the increased effort....YMMV, as always. In my C7, I find the shifting to be quite good (throws are clearly shorter than a C6), that said, the 7th to 6th downshift does require more attention than it should.
Jimmy
Jimmy
Burning Brakes
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Okay, a little help for the ignorant old guy here. First, what is a "MGW" shifter?? 
I come from from a time period of long ago when I replaced the OEM shifter in my 1966 Chevelle SS396 with a Hurst shifter. Next, how does the 7 speed shift mechanism work in our C7s with the transmission located in the rear like it is? Is there actually linkage or is it all electronic? It's hard to imagine a drive-train like this without the transmission directly behind the clutch bell housing, if that's what it's called these days.
THANKS!
I come from from a time period of long ago when I replaced the OEM shifter in my 1966 Chevelle SS396 with a Hurst shifter. Next, how does the 7 speed shift mechanism work in our C7s with the transmission located in the rear like it is? Is there actually linkage or is it all electronic? It's hard to imagine a drive-train like this without the transmission directly behind the clutch bell housing, if that's what it's called these days. THANKS!
Drifting
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From: Billings Montana
I have a heck of a time when down shifting out of the higher gears too, although I am getting better at it. I like the rev match to be on most of the time, if for no other reason it tells me when I am about to go into a lower gear than intended before I actually engage it.
Le Mans Master
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From: Longview Texas
Okay, a little help for the ignorant old guy here. First, what is a "MGW" shifter?? I come from from a time period of long ago when I replaced the OEM shifter in my 1966 Chevelle SS396 with a Hurst shifter. Next, how does the 7 speed shift mechanism work in our C7s with the transmission located in the rear like it is? Is there actually linkage or is it all electronic? It's hard to imagine a drive-train like this without the transmission directly behind the clutch bell housing, if that's what it's called these days.
THANKS!
I come from from a time period of long ago when I replaced the OEM shifter in my 1966 Chevelle SS396 with a Hurst shifter. Next, how does the 7 speed shift mechanism work in our C7s with the transmission located in the rear like it is? Is there actually linkage or is it all electronic? It's hard to imagine a drive-train like this without the transmission directly behind the clutch bell housing, if that's what it's called these days. THANKS!
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Burning Brakes
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I put a MGW shifter in my C6 and ended up taking it out. Everyone considering this modification should realize that there is NO free lunch. The MGW DOES shorten shift throws but that comes at the expense of higher shift effort. For me, the trade off was not worth it, for many others, the shorter throws outweigh the increased effort....YMMV, as always. In my C7, I find the shifting to be quite good (throws are clearly shorter than a C6), that said, the 7th to 6th downshift does require more attention than it should.
Jimmy
Jimmy
-If you're unfamiliar, it was placing a washer or three on a transmission plug (non-technical term). This raised the plug up slightly and decreased the effort required to get the shifter into and out of the detent.
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I put a MGW shifter in my C6 and ended up taking it out. Everyone considering this modification should realize that there is NO free lunch. The MGW DOES shorten shift throws but that comes at the expense of higher shift effort. For me, the trade off was not worth it, for many others, the shorter throws outweigh the increased effort....YMMV, as always. In my C7, I find the shifting to be quite good (throws are clearly shorter than a C6), that said, the 7th to 6th downshift does require more attention than it should.
Jimmy
Jimmy
I understand your point but i need to stress that without the new box design there was really no free lunch but this combo really allows shorter smoother throws AND almost no increase in effort. there is some but not even in the same zipcode as before due to the limitations of the lower stock box.
It really feels incredible.
George
Melting Slicks
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I understand your point but i need to stress that without the new box design there was really no free lunch but this combo really allows shorter smoother throws AND almost no increase in effort. there is some but not even in the same zipcode as before due to the limitations of the lower stock box.
It really feels incredible.
George
It really feels incredible.
George
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I understand your point but i need to stress that without the new box design there was really no free lunch but this combo really allows shorter smoother throws AND almost no increase in effort. there is some but not even in the same zipcode as before due to the limitations of the lower stock box.
It really feels incredible.
George
It really feels incredible.
George
I hope I didn't offend you, certainly not my intent. The quality of the shifter I got from you for my C6 was perfect, just more effort than I was comfortable with.
So, as usual, I should have done some research before posting....I take from your post that the stock C7 box is different from the C6. Could you explain the difference?
Jimmy
Melting Slicks
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From: North shore,Ma./Naples Florida
As I understand it the shifter and box in the C7 is pretty much identical to the C6 right down to the part number on the lower box. The only change being the shift ****. That said the MGW is is work of art and is now sold with the new lower box and I can't imagine anyone being disappointed. Anyone experiencing a higher shift effort with the MGW was using the stock lower box and not the new MGW lower box in combination with their shifter.
Instructor
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From: Long Island
I understand your point but i need to stress that without the new box design there was really no free lunch but this combo really allows shorter smoother throws AND almost no increase in effort. there is some but not even in the same zipcode as before due to the limitations of the lower stock box.
It really feels incredible.
George
It really feels incredible.
George
