TSW vs. HRE
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Unless you track your car you'll never get anywhere near the design limits on wheels whether they're forged or cast. That means for the vast majority of C7 owners it doesn't matter whether your wheels are forged or cast, so base your purchase decision on cost, quality and looks with little or no weight on how they're made.
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Okay. Thank you! I've never seen that Powerpoint pic with Tadge and I never looked at that thread because of the title subject.
So, I guess that settles it, Z51 wheels are forged!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1586358122-post35.html
So, I guess that settles it, Z51 wheels are forged!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1586358122-post35.html
The people on this forum will look at the blue sky and say it's white. So much wasted energy on being argumentative.
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Unless you track your car you'll never get anywhere near the design limits on wheels whether they're forged or cast. That means for the vast majority of C7 owners it doesn't matter whether your wheels are forged or cast, so base your purchase decision on cost, quality and looks with little or no weight on how they're made.
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The forged v. cast wheel argument is no different than a private man-part size argument.
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Does anyone know where the wheels are made? I know the tsw's are made in china which was a deal breaker for me, but don't know where the corvette or hre"s are made.
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Unless you track your car you'll never get anywhere near the design limits on wheels whether they're forged or cast. That means for the vast majority of C7 owners it doesn't matter whether your wheels are forged or cast, so base your purchase decision on cost, quality and looks with little or no weight on how they're made.
I like the factory wheels being forged.
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$1050 shipped...easy choice
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I'm not a metallurgist, but I suspect a cast wheel would be more likely to break instead of bending. I could be wrong about that.
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I talked to one of the GM Engineers at a track event who told me the same information Z51 wheels are forged. Which isn't too hard to believe, my M3 and M5 both came with forged wheels from the factory.
The people on this forum will look at the blue sky and say it's white. So much wasted energy on being argumentative.
The people on this forum will look at the blue sky and say it's white. So much wasted energy on being argumentative.
Like I said, I thought the same thing having seen the same presentations over a year ago but all the latest literature, as well as the Chevy website no longer mentions forged, they simply state painted aluminum. Do you really think that if the production wheels are indeed forged GM wouldn't play that up in their literature????
It's not unheard of for specs to change from those May 2013 presentations Tadge and team did and September production.
If they are forged then their under $795 MSRP ($585 street price) makes them some of the least expensive forged OEM wheels I have ever seen. Most factory forged wheels are well over $1000 MSRP. My OEM Forged Jeep SRT wheels were $1495 each.
As to where HRE Flow Formed are made vs. TSW's, I stand corrected but either way it's the same process and TSW is a very respected wheel manufacturer but hey, if you want to contribute to HRE's profits then by all means pay twice the price plus over the TSW's for a cast wheel.
Personally, I purchased a 2nd set of Factory Z51 wheels to have refinished Hyper Silver/Black because I like the design, trust them to be a quality wheel but wanted a different finish. The wheels I bought will be here tomorrow so I'll take a close look and see, it's pretty easy to spot forged over cast, especially since most forged wheels say "forged" somewhere on them I'll weigh them as well, that's also usually a dead giveaway.
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Here are the markings on the factory Z51 wheels.
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Like I said, I thought the same thing having seen the same presentations over a year ago but all the latest literature, as well as the Chevy website no longer mentions forged, they simply state painted aluminum. Do you really think that if the production wheels are indeed forged GM wouldn't play that up in their literature????
It's not unheard of for specs to change from those May 2013 presentations Tadge and team did and September production.
If they are forged then their under $795 MSRP ($585 street price) makes them some of the least expensive forged OEM wheels I have ever seen. Most factory forged wheels are well over $1000 MSRP. My OEM Forged Jeep SRT wheels were $1495 each.
As to where HRE Flow Formed are made vs. TSW's, I stand corrected but either way it's the same process and TSW is a very respected wheel manufacturer but hey, if you want to contribute to HRE's profits then by all means pay twice the price plus over the TSW's for a cast wheel.
Personally, I purchased a 2nd set of Factory Z51 wheels to have refinished Hyper Silver/Black because I like the design, trust them to be a quality wheel but wanted a different finish. The wheels I bought will be here tomorrow so I'll take a close look and see, it's pretty easy to spot forged over cast, especially since most forged wheels say "forged" somewhere on them I'll weigh them as well, that's also usually a dead giveaway.
It's not unheard of for specs to change from those May 2013 presentations Tadge and team did and September production.
If they are forged then their under $795 MSRP ($585 street price) makes them some of the least expensive forged OEM wheels I have ever seen. Most factory forged wheels are well over $1000 MSRP. My OEM Forged Jeep SRT wheels were $1495 each.
As to where HRE Flow Formed are made vs. TSW's, I stand corrected but either way it's the same process and TSW is a very respected wheel manufacturer but hey, if you want to contribute to HRE's profits then by all means pay twice the price plus over the TSW's for a cast wheel.
Personally, I purchased a 2nd set of Factory Z51 wheels to have refinished Hyper Silver/Black because I like the design, trust them to be a quality wheel but wanted a different finish. The wheels I bought will be here tomorrow so I'll take a close look and see, it's pretty easy to spot forged over cast, especially since most forged wheels say "forged" somewhere on them I'll weigh them as well, that's also usually a dead giveaway.
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My BBS wheels on my M5 and M3 didn't say forged and I would say a mass produced wheel for $585 being forged is more likely than not. Custom made wheels may be $1,000 each but they also aren't mass produced. You can buy replacement BMW M wheels for that range or lower and are regularly sold for far less than that.
I'll be at the factory Thursday picking up my car, I will make it a point to ask whoever I can whether the production Z51 wheels are indeed forged. It would be too funny if I got both answers....
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I also have had a "Boss" wheel crack in the middle of the barrel on my wife's Tahoe for no reason. These are cheap cast wheels and I got what I paid for. We are putting way more stresses on our Corvettes then these two instances.
Many people don't know that there is no D.O.T. Standards or official approval process in the United States for aftermarket wheels. The only certification for aftermarket wheels is TUV, and HRE Wheels is certified.
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When's the last time you talked to anyone who ended up with a bent wheel from a pothole? I mean firsthand experience, not someone who told someone who heard it from someone?
I'm not a metallurgist, but I suspect a cast wheel would be more likely to break instead of bending. I could be wrong about that.
I'm not a metallurgist, but I suspect a cast wheel would be more likely to break instead of bending. I could be wrong about that.
He's a bent cast wheel:
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Factory Corvette Z51 wheels are made in China. HRE flow formed are made in Japan. I don't know where TSW wheels are made but I'm sure someone who has purchased them would know since it should be on the box or in the casting. I suspect China.
Here are the markings on the factory Z51 wheels.
Here are the markings on the factory Z51 wheels.
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The Z51 set I just bought are stamped China, it's not uncommon to have multiple suppliers, especially with the shortage of Z51 parts. They are legit GM wheels.
Honestly, I can't decide if they are forged or cast but they are very well made. The spokes are actually quite thin, as is the barrel which is leaning me towards forged.
The fronts are 24 lbs, the rears are 27.4 lbs. Light but not as light as some forgings I've had.
Overall they are very nicely made, I'm impressed.
Honestly, I can't decide if they are forged or cast but they are very well made. The spokes are actually quite thin, as is the barrel which is leaning me towards forged.
The fronts are 24 lbs, the rears are 27.4 lbs. Light but not as light as some forgings I've had.
Overall they are very nicely made, I'm impressed.