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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Anyone here find the dealers arrogant, hard to deal with and lacking product knowledge? What bad experiences. Have purchased 30 new Vettes since 2000 and all but two have been Ugh! Maybe it's me. Purchased many bimmers and other high end cars and the experiences were much better. I dread hunting for a new Z.

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You did not work with MacMulkin in Nashua, NH. did you? They were professional, knowledgable and wanted to sell a car when I was buying. Good enough for me to fly from Detroit and drive my new ride back.
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Originally Posted by corvette02035
Anyone here find the dealers arrogant, hard to deal with and lacking product knowledge? What a bad experience. Ugh!
Well Al, I thought Massey was your dealer of choice
Or, are you referring to the other dealers you visited, or is this a generic question???

To be frank, and I am sure others on the CF will agree and/or chime in, majority of dealership sales personnal lack sufficient product knowledge (sad but true), despite the fact, dealership owners should be sending them to product training.
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People who work at dealerships are sales people. Very few are fans of the cars they are actually trying to sell.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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People who work at dealerships are sales people. Very few are fans of the cars they are actually trying to sell.
Plus, unless the s'man is a dedicated Corvette sales guys, the typical sales guy sell 100s of times more econboxes, SUVs and Pickups. Not much need for them to study up on Corvettes to do their job.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 06:40 PM
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Plus, unless the s'man is a dedicated Corvette sales guys, the typical sales guy sell 100s of times more econboxes, SUVs and Pickups. Not much need for them to study up on Corvettes to do their job.
Two recent experiences with dealers/salesmen affirm the OP's point. At a Chevy dealer in Louisville, the salesman who approached me on the showroom floor, knew absolutely nothing about the Corvette.... couldn't answer a single question about the car. Most of these guys spend hours sitting around, why don't they study up on the cars they are promoting?

Another experience in northern Michigan was where I met a Chevy dealer at a resort and I started talking about the new Corvette. Likewise he knew nothing about the car. How do these guys stay in business?
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You did not work with MacMulkin in Nashua, NH. did you? They were professional, knowledgable and wanted to sell a car when I was buying. Good enough for me to fly from Detroit and drive my new ride back.
I did indeed. No problem at all in buying the car but the trade in allowance
was not even close. Not a problem just shopped elsewhere. Trade in allowance is subjective at best. They saw very little value in my trade.
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Originally Posted by SteveMcGuire
Two recent experiences with dealers/salesmen affirm the OP's point. At a Chevy dealer in Louisville, the salesman who approached me on the showroom floor, knew absolutely nothing about the Corvette.... couldn't answer a single question about the car. Most of these guys spend hours sitting around, why don't they study up on the cars they are promoting?

Another experience in northern Michigan was where I met a Chevy dealer at a resort and I started talking about the new Corvette. Likewise he knew nothing about the car. How do these guys stay in business?
Because they sell trucks, cobalts, sonics snd gen purpose cars, i really dont understand why people dont get this. ....ill be damned if im gonna "study" the vette sales manuals for the 5 vettes i might get in smaller dealership per year.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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Well Al, I thought Massey was your dealer of choice
Or, are you referring to the other dealers you visited, or is this a generic question???

To be frank, and I am sure others on the CF will agree and/or chime in, majority of dealership sales personnal lack sufficient product knowledge (sad but true), despite the fact, dealership owners should be sending them to product training.
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Dealer of choice? This was my fourth Massey vette. I actualy can't complain but no rave review either. I'd go back if I wanted an in stock car. The generic attitude is "if you don't take it I'll find someone else who wants it". I've purchased many cars in the same price range and I truly feel that the Chevy dealer is the Corvette's biggest problem. They don't understand the finess that other brands extend to the customer. Certain large dealers do undedstand and that's why they are successful in dealing with Corvette customers. Others are just ghastly. All in all Masse was ok. Maybe I'm just looking for a great experience. Just my opinion.
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Because they sell trucks, cobalts, sonics snd gen purpose cars, i really dont understand why people dont get this. ....ill be damned if im gonna "study" the vette sales manuals for the 5 vettes i might get in smaller dealership per year.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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You did not work with MacMulkin in Nashua, NH. did you? They were professional, knowledgable and wanted to sell a car when I was buying. Good enough for me to fly from Detroit and drive my new ride back.
I tried but couldn't come close to the real value of my trade. No problem with that. That's their choice. Macmulkin is great if you don't have a trade IMO. No doubt they are knowledgeable.
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Fact is ... every single Chevy salesman MUST pass a GM course on every car he sells. If he/she doesn't they won't receive their monthly GM bonus. And, they all attend a GM sponsored sales meet and drive on all new vehicles introduced by GM. In the case of the Corvette....either the Sales Manager or if they have one, a Corvette specialist attends that. With the intro of the C7 it was held in Vegas.
Most car salesman today work hard. Some of the Vette Snobs that come into the dealers... want the dealer to give them retail for their trades and sell them the new one at wholesale. And, GOD FORBID if they know one thing more than the salesperson...they consider that salesperson a moron.

The C7 Stingray sells itself.....anyone who wants one KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT. All the salesman has to do is fill in the blanks and smile all the way to the bank.

Allocation as lossened up....smaller dealers are getting them now. Nothing against the Forum Dealers...they do a GREAT job but talk to your local dealer and see what they can do.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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I purchased both my 'vettes (C6 & C7) from dealerships other than my hometown dealer. I really like the people there, but they do not know anything about Corvettes. In fact, when I take my 'Vette there for service, the salesmen (knowing I am a Corvette guy), gather around and pick my brain for information. I give them great credit for that. These guys literally had pads and pencils in hand when I stopped by to have my C6 serviced just after the C7 first came out. I talked C7s the whole hour I waited for my oil change and they actually took notes. I really do like these guys and I just hope they were able to use some of the info I shared...
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Fact is ... every single Chevy salesman MUST pass a GM course on every car he sells. If he/she doesn't they won't receive their monthly GM bonus. And, they all attend a GM sponsored sales meet and drive on all new vehicles introduced by GM. In the case of the Corvette....either the Sales Manager or if they have one, a Corvette specialist attends that. With the intro of the C7 it was held in Vegas.
Most car salesman today work hard. Some of the Vette Snobs that come into the dealers... want the dealer to give them retail for their trades and sell them the new one at wholesale. And, GOD FORBID if they know one thing more than the salesperson...they consider that salesperson a moron.

The C7 Stingray sells itself.....anyone who wants one KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT. All the salesman has to do is fill in the blanks and smile all the way to the bank.

Allocation as lossened up....smaller dealers are getting them now. Nothing against the Forum Dealers...they do a GREAT job but talk to your local dealer and see what they can do.
Interesting POV. I agree that car sales people work hard. I'd try not to blame the customer. Maybe a better idea is to find out what the customer wants and provide it. A good sales experience along with a memorable delivery may be a good idea. What do I know?

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Go to "KERBECK"!! i have always prided myself on doing things 110%. why waste time running around, not being treated professionally and talking to uneducated salespeople. i stated in an original post i met "CORVETTE EXPERT" Ron Michael at Kerbeck. This is my 9th Vette. He is not a salesman. he is a corvette expert. the whole experience took about 3 1/2 hours. arrived, had trade appraised, purchase finalized. My time is too valuable to waste dealing with uneducated salespeople. if you buy from #1 your time will not be wasted. Even the coffee was fresh. not promoting anyone. just relating my experience.

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I purchased both my 'vettes (C6 & C7) from dealerships other than my hometown dealer. I really like the people there, but they do not know anything about Corvettes. In fact, when I take my 'Vette there for service, the salesmen (knowing I am a Corvette guy), gather around and pick my brain for information. I give them great credit for that. These guys literally had pads and pencils in hand when I stopped by to have my C6 serviced just after the C7 first came out. I talked C7s the whole hour I waited for my oil change and they actually took notes. I really do like these guys and I just hope they were able to use some of the info I shared...
Be careful that makes you a snob!

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Ordered my Z51 Coupe through Dave Smith Motors in Kellogg, ID. While I was pretty much up on the car and didn't really need to ask any questions about it, the order and sales process was smooth, painless and stress free. And after delivery of my car, DSM went above and beyond when helping me out with a FOB issue.

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Be careful that makes you snob!
Geez, I never looked at it that way....
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Sub-par purchasing experiences of Vettes at Chevy dealers is a systemic problem. ALL Corvette dealers are naturally preoccupied with volume sales of many, many different products....from dump trucks to little Korean Sonics...and everything in between. The best purchase and service experiences are found at "mega" dealers, but few of us live near them. I bought my car at MacMulkin in New Hampshire and drove it home to NC. Excellent dealer in every way.

To illustrate my point that Chevy dealers are not "Vette-centric"?? Read on.

Coming up on my first oil change interval on my new Corvette, I stopped at a local Chevrolet dealer and asked the SERVICE MANAGER what was the first oil change mileage recommendation and did they have Mobil 1 for my C-7. His response? "A C-7? What's that?!" God's truth, that's what he said!
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I ran into the same thing, i bought at a hendrick chevrolet dealer from a "corvette specialist" but this person could not tell me about all the features on the car. He even went to a class and track session on the new stingray.... He must not have paid attention in class.
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