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Old Oct 9, 2015 | 05:33 PM
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A forum member on a different forum installed a mild to wild device from the C6 onto his C7. I know Theta designed a similar device but it seems this would be an easier solution. I was under the impression the C6 version would not work but he said it works fine. The only modification he had to make was a smaller "add a Circuit" and fuse holder. He said it does not throw any codes and really works well. He also had to put a small hole
in the fuse box to get the ground out and connected. It is controlled with a remote.

I would be curious to know if anyone else had tried this. Hopefully Theta will weigh in. Here is his version.

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Originally Posted by TNSQUIRE
A forum member on a different forum installed a mild to wild device from the C6 onto his C7. I know Theta designed a similar device but it seems this would be an easier solution. I was under the impression the C6 version would not work but he said it works fine. The only modification he had to make was a smaller "add a Circuit" and fuse holder. He said it does not throw any codes and really works well. He also had to put a small hole
in the fuse box to get the ground out and connected. It is controlled with a remote.

I would be curious to know if anyone else had tried this. Hopefully Theta will weigh in. Here is his version.

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You could try looking here:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ob-how-to.html

Basically it will allow an inexpensive method to over-ride the computer and open the rear exhaust valves (NPP) when the computer wants them closed. Obviously, if you command the valves to open and they are already open, nothing happens but when the computer wants them closed, they will not close until you press the remote to re-enable the fuse in the circuit. The circuit will not close the valves if the computer wants them open.

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Originally Posted by Skidplate
It looks pretty much the same except he just used the mild to wild that you can purchase and is basically plug and play ready. No soldering, no special tools or equipment. It just seems like the companies who made the C6 m2w product would be jumping on this for the C7.
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sub'd. I REALLY need a M2W to be able to close the valves on my NPP exhaust. (I added NPP exhaust after the fact and cannot control them with the car currently)
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Why is this different from the software control already in the car? I have a 16 Z51 that has software options under engine management to control the exhaust note. Is that a 16 MY option only or ???

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Why is this different from the software control already in the car? I have a 16 Z51 that has software options under engine management to control the exhaust note. Is that a 16 MY option only or ???

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With the M2W you can choose to have the valves open all the time, with your 16 Z51 and all other models with NPP the only way to do this is pull fuse #42. Your current set-up with engine management even in track mode closes the valves around 1900
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Originally Posted by Bradysdad
Why is this different from the software control already in the car? I have a 16 Z51 that has software options under engine management to control the exhaust note. Is that a 16 MY option only or ???

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For those that bought the car without NPP there is no wiring harness under the car to connect the valves and there is no algorithym in the computer tk control them either. The engine sound management option is there but doesnt do anything at that point. M2W provides a way to open and close te valves if you fit into this catagory like me.
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Originally Posted by TNSQUIRE
It looks pretty much the same except he just used the mild to wild that you can purchase and is basically plug and play ready. No soldering, no special tools or equipment. It just seems like the companies who made the C6 m2w product would be jumping on this for the C7.

I'm amazed that nobody has jump on to this and started making M2W units for the C7. There's got to be a lot of NPP owners out there who would go for it, me included.
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Loved my M2W on my GS, and do wish they made one for the C7. The beauty isn't controlling the opening so much, for me, but being able to close them on demand.

We had some runs where everyone were running a little hot and came upon a Leo, and it was good to be able to quickly slip into stealth mode.

Also good for longer trips when you just wanted to quickly silence the drone and talk with the Mrs., or listen to some tunes, yet be able to be wide open those times you just wanted to hear the engine purr.

Surprised three years into it none of the vendors have worked up a commercial solution.
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Originally Posted by FYREANT
sub'd. I REALLY need a M2W to be able to close the valves on my NPP exhaust. (I added NPP exhaust after the fact and cannot control them with the car currently)
You can make the same thing for yourself, very easily:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ob-how-to.html
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Originally Posted by FYREANT
For those that bought the car without NPP there is no wiring harness under the car to connect the valves and there is no algorithym in the computer tk control them either. The engine sound management option is there but doesnt do anything at that point. M2W provides a way to open and close te valves if you fit into this catagory like me.
Not quite. A retrofit can and has been done. I didn't have NPP in my C7 and retrofitted it with the control module from Akrapovic. This module gives with the same integration as the factory NPP with sound management. You can get details here: http://www.akrapovic.com/#!/car/prod...37&yearId=3895
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Originally Posted by meyerweb
You can make the same thing for yourself, very easily:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ob-how-to.html
As I recall, this was only for those that got an NPP equipped car, and want direct control over the valves. Not the retrofitters.

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Not quite. A retrofit can and has been done. I didn't have NPP in my C7 and retrofitted it with the control module from Akrapovic. This module gives with the same integration as the factory NPP with sound management. You can get details here: http://www.akrapovic.com/#!/car/prod...37&yearId=3895
I have known about this add on for some time. The issue is that I dont want to integrate it. I want direct control over the valves so I can control them with a direct switch.
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Originally Posted by FYREANT
As I recall, this was only for those that got an NPP equipped car, and want direct control over the valves. Not the retrofitters.
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Sorry, you're correct. I missed the retrofit part.

Forum member theta developed a true retrofit, manual control circuit but apparently ran into some legal issues with GM or one of its suppliers.
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I converted the Mild to Wild switch that I took off my C6 when I traded it in. Here's the post I made several months ago about the process.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...onversion.html

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Sorry, you're correct. I missed the retrofit part.

Forum member theta developed a true retrofit, manual control circuit but apparently ran into some legal issues with GM or one of its suppliers.
Yea I was very active in that thread. I reached out to Sean about getting a beta kit to retrofit over a month ago but he hasnt been on the forums since. Hope everything is ok..

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I converted the Mild to Wild switch that I took off my C6 when I traded it in. Here's the post I made several months ago about the process.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...onversion.html

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This is a functional solution for those that have cars that originally came NPP equipped. For those that didn't originally have NPP, the fuse box can't be used as those cars have no wiring going back to the valves as the car was intended to not have valves in this case. A true solution would be needed that provides the wiring, NPP valve electrical connectors, etc.
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Originally Posted by FYREANT
This is a functional solution for those that have cars that originally came NPP equipped. For those that didn't originally have NPP, the fuse box can't be used as those cars have no wiring going back to the valves as the car was intended to not have valves in this case. A true solution would be needed that provides the wiring, NPP valve electrical connectors, etc.
Exactly correct, however the OP asked if any one on this forum had done something similar with NPP to what he saw on another forum. That's what my post was referencing. Anything else relating to a non NPP equipped car is off topic.

Theta's solution to keep the NPP valves closed, or to equip a car, that did not come with NPP, with NPP mufflers was covered extensively in a couple other threads. Unfortunately that solution was shut down after a considerable financial and time investment by him.

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