PDR Software
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PDR Software
I hope this has not already been covered. I have seen a number of other threads about the PDR, but have seen any about the software to make a video of your recordings.
The owners manual tells you to go to Corvette.com for the software, but every time I tried that I got switched to Chevrolet.com and didn't find any PDR software links there. I googled it and found the Cosworth Toolbox. That software looks amazing, so much data available from the recording! Only problem - I have a Mac Book Pro and the software is for Windows 7 & 8.
I do have a desktop PC with Windows XP that just died. We very rarely ever used it so we may or may not replace it, and if we do we haven't decided what to get. Maybe just a cheap laptop PC just to run Windows compatible programs that Mac won't run.
I did a trial run of a short clip using iMovie, but for some reason I didn't get any audio even though the playback in my Vette had audio. The only data I got was the performance data that shows on the screen in the car - 0-60, 1/4 mile, etc.
So what are you guys using? How well does it work? Are you using Windows (what version)? Anyone using a Mac? Any and all info is appreciated.
I have just over 900 miles on my Vette so far and I am LOVING IT1
The owners manual tells you to go to Corvette.com for the software, but every time I tried that I got switched to Chevrolet.com and didn't find any PDR software links there. I googled it and found the Cosworth Toolbox. That software looks amazing, so much data available from the recording! Only problem - I have a Mac Book Pro and the software is for Windows 7 & 8.
I do have a desktop PC with Windows XP that just died. We very rarely ever used it so we may or may not replace it, and if we do we haven't decided what to get. Maybe just a cheap laptop PC just to run Windows compatible programs that Mac won't run.
I did a trial run of a short clip using iMovie, but for some reason I didn't get any audio even though the playback in my Vette had audio. The only data I got was the performance data that shows on the screen in the car - 0-60, 1/4 mile, etc.
So what are you guys using? How well does it work? Are you using Windows (what version)? Anyone using a Mac? Any and all info is appreciated.
I have just over 900 miles on my Vette so far and I am LOVING IT1
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VLC is a popular video player for OSX that plays the videos with sound. Flip4Mac also seems to work if you are using Quicktime. Or just convert to a .mov file for the native iMovie.
I have Windows in a bootcamp partition for a handful of programs for which there is no Mac version. Unfortunately the Cosworth Toolbox is one of them. You will need a bootcamp Windows, a virtual machine solution like Parallels, or a Windows PC.
Good luck!
I have Windows in a bootcamp partition for a handful of programs for which there is no Mac version. Unfortunately the Cosworth Toolbox is one of them. You will need a bootcamp Windows, a virtual machine solution like Parallels, or a Windows PC.
Good luck!
Last edited by CaryBob; Nov 13, 2015 at 06:07 PM.
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I'm a Mac user and I discovered this too and found that VLC works to view the pdr movies and you get sound. For some reason iMovie and QuickTime don't like the files it produces.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
I found a thread here where someone said they could use mpeg streamclip to save the files as a .mov which lets you use iMovie to edit. I haven't tried that yet.
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html
I looked at buying a cheap pc or tablet to run cosworth but decided against it because I'm not going to track my car with any regularity to use the tools and I really didn't want another device to deal with. You could run a program like vm fusion which will let you run Windows, but then you need to get a more modern version of Windows to work with it.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
I found a thread here where someone said they could use mpeg streamclip to save the files as a .mov which lets you use iMovie to edit. I haven't tried that yet.
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html
I looked at buying a cheap pc or tablet to run cosworth but decided against it because I'm not going to track my car with any regularity to use the tools and I really didn't want another device to deal with. You could run a program like vm fusion which will let you run Windows, but then you need to get a more modern version of Windows to work with it.
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VLC is a popular video player for OSX that plays the videos with sound. Flip4Mac also seems to work if you are using Quicktime. Or just convert to a .mov file for the native iMovie.
I have Windows in a bootcamp partition for a handful of programs for which there is no Mac version. Unfortunately the Cosworth Toolbox is one of them. You will need a bootcamp Windows, a virtual machine solution like Parallels, or a Windows PC.
Good luck!
I have Windows in a bootcamp partition for a handful of programs for which there is no Mac version. Unfortunately the Cosworth Toolbox is one of them. You will need a bootcamp Windows, a virtual machine solution like Parallels, or a Windows PC.
Good luck!
the Mac hardware can boot into Windows native.
Hold option key at power on, and you'll be able to chooses which OS to boot to)
or go to startup disk control panel, select the windows os, and reboot.
Last edited by aj98; Nov 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM.
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you'll only need parallels if you want to run windows programs in a window on the Mac.
the Mac hardware can boot into Windows native.
Hold option key at power on, and you'll be able to chooses which OS to boot to)
or go to startup disk control panel, select the windows os, and reboot.
the Mac hardware can boot into Windows native.
Hold option key at power on, and you'll be able to chooses which OS to boot to)
or go to startup disk control panel, select the windows os, and reboot.
Windows on a Mac requires either Bootcamp or a virtual machine, not both.
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[QUOTE=Rooster OG;1590899281]I'm a Mac user and I discovered this too and found that VLC works to view the pdr movies and you get sound. For some reason iMovie and QuickTime don't like the files it produces.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
I just tried to download VLC, but I get a message saying I can only download apps approved by Apple due to security settings. I looked at my security settings, but found nothing about that or anything/anyway to change download/app security settings.
Any ideas on that?
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
I just tried to download VLC, but I get a message saying I can only download apps approved by Apple due to security settings. I looked at my security settings, but found nothing about that or anything/anyway to change download/app security settings.
Any ideas on that?
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[QUOTE=principalpony;1590909472]
I just tried the download Flip4Mac and it seems to be one I can download, but before I spend the money for it (i know it's cheap) I'd to hear from someone if it works, how well it works.
I'm a Mac user and I discovered this too and found that VLC works to view the pdr movies and you get sound. For some reason iMovie and QuickTime don't like the files it produces.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
I just tried to download VLC, but I get a message saying I can only download apps approved by Apple due to security settings. I looked at my security settings, but found nothing about that or anything/anyway to change download/app security settings.
Any ideas on that?
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
I just tried to download VLC, but I get a message saying I can only download apps approved by Apple due to security settings. I looked at my security settings, but found nothing about that or anything/anyway to change download/app security settings.
Any ideas on that?
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Just worked w/PDR videos on a MacBook Pro last nite -
- FlipPlayer works to open/play videos with sound in native .MP4 format. Trimming & editing is available in 'PRO' edition but I have not paid for it yet. When I tried trimming in the free version, it seemed to work, but is a silly pain to use - it does not pickup the desired start/finish time at the spots you select in the video, so you have to manually find & type the time markers in each time. It may be designed that way deliberately to force you to pay for the upgrade version...
- VLC works to open/play videos with sound in native .MP4 format, but I could not find any options for trimming or editing.
- I have Parallels loaded to provide a Windows 7 virtual machine to run Cosworth Toolbox. Works perfectly.
I need to find editing software to trim the files within the Mac OS, but want to AVOID changing the format of the files. That may strip proprietary telemetry data that Cosworth Toolbox needs for full analysis of the .MP4 file.
.
- FlipPlayer works to open/play videos with sound in native .MP4 format. Trimming & editing is available in 'PRO' edition but I have not paid for it yet. When I tried trimming in the free version, it seemed to work, but is a silly pain to use - it does not pickup the desired start/finish time at the spots you select in the video, so you have to manually find & type the time markers in each time. It may be designed that way deliberately to force you to pay for the upgrade version...
- VLC works to open/play videos with sound in native .MP4 format, but I could not find any options for trimming or editing.
- I have Parallels loaded to provide a Windows 7 virtual machine to run Cosworth Toolbox. Works perfectly.
I need to find editing software to trim the files within the Mac OS, but want to AVOID changing the format of the files. That may strip proprietary telemetry data that Cosworth Toolbox needs for full analysis of the .MP4 file.
.
Last edited by EvilBoffin; Nov 15, 2015 at 02:49 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '09
[QUOTE=principalpony;1590909472]
Rooster - I downloaded VLC from the manufacturer's site last nite also, and got the same security warning message...
If you now go into System Preferences/Security & Privacy applet, you will see on the first tab a notice that you tried to launch VLC and the OS blocked it as 'unsafe'. From there, you can select to accept the safety of the application even though it did not originate from the App Store. Save that setting permanently and it will not bug you again.
Hope that helps...
.
... I just tried to download VLC, but I get a message saying I can only download apps approved by Apple due to security settings. I looked at my security settings, but found nothing about that or anything/anyway to change download/app security settings.
Any ideas on that?
Any ideas on that?
If you now go into System Preferences/Security & Privacy applet, you will see on the first tab a notice that you tried to launch VLC and the OS blocked it as 'unsafe'. From there, you can select to accept the safety of the application even though it did not originate from the App Store. Save that setting permanently and it will not bug you again.
Hope that helps...
.
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Yeah, that's one of their added security features. I'm out of town right now but will dive into vlc when I get back. I forget, can you export or resave as a different file type? As for changing the file, just copy the original.
Principalpony asked about running cosworth on his Mac. The easiest way would be to run vm fusion or parallels (which would cost $50 or so) and then getting an upgrade to some newer version of Windows because xp isn't supported (which costs $99 or something like that). My dilemma was recommending just getting a Windows device at that point rather than futzing around with all that crap and saving yourself some assured agony.
It comes back to how much you'll use cosworth. If you're gonna race a lot, then it's totally worth it. If you're like me, and you wanna post a cool pdr video every now and then, cosworth isn't worth it. Just my two cents.
Principalpony asked about running cosworth on his Mac. The easiest way would be to run vm fusion or parallels (which would cost $50 or so) and then getting an upgrade to some newer version of Windows because xp isn't supported (which costs $99 or something like that). My dilemma was recommending just getting a Windows device at that point rather than futzing around with all that crap and saving yourself some assured agony.
It comes back to how much you'll use cosworth. If you're gonna race a lot, then it's totally worth it. If you're like me, and you wanna post a cool pdr video every now and then, cosworth isn't worth it. Just my two cents.
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Yeah, that's one of their added security features. I'm out of town right now but will dive into vlc when I get back. I forget, can you export or resave as a different file type? As for changing the file, just copy the original.
Principalpony asked about running cosworth on his Mac. The easiest way would be to run vm fusion or parallels (which would cost $50 or so) and then getting an upgrade to some newer version of Windows because xp isn't supported (which costs $99 or something like that). My dilemma was recommending just getting a Windows device at that point rather than futzing around with all that crap and saving yourself some assured agony.
It comes back to how much you'll use cosworth. If you're gonna race a lot, then it's totally worth it. If you're like me, and you wanna post a cool pdr video every now and then, cosworth isn't worth it. Just my two cents.
Principalpony asked about running cosworth on his Mac. The easiest way would be to run vm fusion or parallels (which would cost $50 or so) and then getting an upgrade to some newer version of Windows because xp isn't supported (which costs $99 or something like that). My dilemma was recommending just getting a Windows device at that point rather than futzing around with all that crap and saving yourself some assured agony.
It comes back to how much you'll use cosworth. If you're gonna race a lot, then it's totally worth it. If you're like me, and you wanna post a cool pdr video every now and then, cosworth isn't worth it. Just my two cents.
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St. Jude Donor '15
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SETTINGS ->SECURITY AND PRiVACY -> GENERAL
ALLOW APPS DOWNLOADED FROM - pick your choice.
For VLC you'll want to d/l apps from anywhere. Thats takes you out of Apples sandbox. After the d/l you;re better off putting it back to where it was.
VLC is way better then flip for Mac and its open source.
[QUOTE=principalpony;1590909499]
ALLOW APPS DOWNLOADED FROM - pick your choice.
For VLC you'll want to d/l apps from anywhere. Thats takes you out of Apples sandbox. After the d/l you;re better off putting it back to where it was.
VLC is way better then flip for Mac and its open source.
[QUOTE=principalpony;1590909499]
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St. Jude Donor '15
That's a great idea. At least run one video through the toolbox, then you can decide how much effort you think it's worth.
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I use avidemux on Ubuntu. Gobbles up the PDR files and allows you to save them in a variety of formats. Strange thing is that VLC plays the videos but with no sound. After converting them with avidemux the sound is there.
There's free downloads for Linux, Windows and Macs here.
There's free downloads for Linux, Windows and Macs here.