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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
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BTW, and I'm not complaining at all but you change Avatars more than I chasge my socks LOL
Most of the CF members that comment on my avatars like my "variety". After all the old cliche is "variety is the spice of life".

Probably one reason why we all see so many different styles of C7's here and the mods that members make.

What do you prefer?

#1 or #2?
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nmvettec7
Most of the CF members that comment on my avatars like my "variety". After all the old cliche is "variety is the spice of life".

Probably one reason why we all see so many different styles of C7's here and the mods that members make.

What do you prefer?

#1 or #2?
Ummmm let me think about it.... OK number one
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:44 PM
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Thanks for the info on the Race Ramps I just ordered the 67" 2 piece ramps at Auto Anything for $272 with the 20% holiday discount and free shipping.
Looks like a fast, safe and easy way to lift the Corvette to change oil, plus I can use it on my other vehicles.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gve
Thanks for the info on the Race Ramps I just ordered the 67" 2 piece ramps at Auto Anything for $272 with the 20% holiday discount and free shipping.
Looks like a fast, safe and easy way to lift the Corvette to change oil, plus I can use it on my other vehicles.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:00 PM
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Reverse Logic, a CF sponsor, has the 2-pc 67" ramps for $271 with a SAVE63 coupon code.

http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...egory=15864570

The RR-56-2 ramps are $183 with a SAVE45 coupon code.

http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...egory=15864570
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BladeSilver2015
I use Race Ramps to service my C7. Work perfectly. I already had the RR-56 ramps when I bought the car. Added the extenders to reduce the angle of attack from 10.8 to 6.6 degrees.


http://www.raceramps.com/56-inch-car-service-ramps.aspx
http://www.raceramps.com/xtenders-for-56inch-race-ramps.aspx
Originally Posted by nmvettec7
1) Order a set of jacking pucks for the C7 from Southern Car Parts a CF vendor and sponsor for $42.99. Install the jacking pucks as they are made to remain on the car.

Whether you use them to change oil or not, they are a mechanics accessory that every C7 owner should have. They install in less than 5 minutes and are placed in the BLUE area as shown above in Jerry U's diagram. You can use 2 slide under the car hydraulic jacks to lift the C7 from the 2 front jacking points.

OR

2) Consider buying a set of the Race Ramps in the 67" model. The C7 will roll up on the Race Ramps and elevate the C7 an additional 10 to 11" in height. It will be easy to access the oil filter on a non-Z51 model. The oil filter is clearly visible on the non-Z51 model from just bending down on the drivers side and seeing the filter.

3) For the first few oil changes, let the dealer complete the oil changes that you get for free. The money you save by letting the dealer do the free changes, you can use that cash to pay for the jacking pucks and race ramps.

You can buy the 67" set of Race ramps from various on-line auto parts vendors for $268.00 when they have a 20% off sale which is a regular occurrence. The Race Ramps are very lightweight and structurally very sound. They pull apart for easy storage.
Either or ....... I have both.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic
Reverse Logic, a CF sponsor, has the 2-pc 67" ramps for $271 with a SAVE63 coupon code.

http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...egory=15864570

The RR-56-2 ramps are $183 with a SAVE45 coupon code.

http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...egory=15864570
And the RR-EX-12 extenders are how much ?
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by beekeeper
I purchased these jack stands which work well with jack pucks. I also use race ramps. I don't think it is safe to work under four jack stands.


I have four of those, and I've used them few times changing the oil in my C5, and my C4 was on 4 jack stands for a long long time, and thru an earthquake.

I feel extremely safe under a car supported by 4-jack stands.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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If you are a first time buyer of Race Ramps and you need the low 6.8 degree angle of the Xtenders, it makes much more sense to purchase one of the 2-stge incline ramp models. The 2-stage incline ramps are more economical, easier to use, and easier to store. They are also a more elegant solution than using XTenders.

On the other hand, if you purchased the 10.8 degree ramps, and later acquired a car that needed a more shallow ramp, then the XTenders make sense.

http://www.reverselogic.us/2-stage-incline-ramps.html

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And the RR-EX-12 extenders are how much ?

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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by raylo
Exactly, just keep a written or electronic log of your services whether DIY or elsewhere. I keep a simple Microsoft Access database that also imports the receipts for oil, filters, work by shops, whatever. A dealer acting in good faith won't challenge that absent overt signs of abuse or neglect.
As long as you have documentation that the maintenance was done and done right, you'll be OK.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gve
Thanks for the info on the Race Ramps I just ordered the 67" 2 piece ramps at Auto Anything for $272 with the 20% holiday discount and free shipping.
Looks like a fast, safe and easy way to lift the Corvette to change oil, plus I can use it on my other vehicles.
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You listened and read well. You won't be disappointed in your purchase.

The Race Ramps will be sent direct to you from the manufacturer as vendors just take the order, collect the funds from the buyer and send the order to Brute Industries in Michigan where the ramps are made.
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 12:23 AM
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That's not completely correct. Most of the larger Race Ramps resellers stock the ramps. At least 75% of the ramps I sell are shipped out of Pennsylvania. For resellers like Amazon almost all of the ramps are shipped from their own warehouses.

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The Race Ramps will be sent direct to you from the manufacturer as vendors just take the order, collect the funds from the buyer and send the order to Brute Industries in Michigan where the ramps are made.
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic
That's not completely correct. Most of the larger Race Ramps resellers stock the ramps. At least 75% of the ramps I sell are shipped out of Pennsylvania. For resellers like Amazon almost all of the ramps are shipped from their own warehouses.
I purchased the Race Ramp product from the same vendor as the other CF member. They were shipped directly from Brute Industries in Michigan the company that makes the Race Ramp product.

While your's may be shipped from PA, most on-line retailers don't stock the product as there is no need to when they simply take the order and send the order to Brute who ships them via UPS to the end user. Why would any vendor want to hold inventory when it is not necessary.
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I don't dispute that a lot of ramps are drop shipped directly to customers from the factory. But the two examples you site are hardly enough to declare that no ramps are held in inventory at resellers.

There are plenty of reasons for a vendor to maintain inventory. Do you think Amazon would have such a high fulfillment rate and reputation for quick deliveries if they did not keep ramps in inventory? Race Ramps does not stock enough ramps to drop ship every ramp that is sold on a given day. This is especially the case for ramp models like my custom "RLL" designs and other ramps models that are not produced every week.

In my case, I am located near a high percentage of the US population base. So, it makes sense to keep popular ramps like Flatstoppers in stock to minimize shipping cost and delivery time.

Originally Posted by nmvettec7
I purchased the Race Ramp product from the same vendor as the other CF member. They were shipped directly from Brute Industries in Michigan the company that makes the Race Ramp product.

While your's may be shipped from PA, most on-line retailers don't stock the product as there is no need to when they simply take the order and send the order to Brute who ships them via UPS to the end user. Why would any vendor want to hold inventory when it is not necessary.
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Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo
You guys jack up the rear to level it out when doing the oil ?
You should.
My C-6 would retain almost 1 quart if I didn't level it.
But, getting a jack and cross brace under the rear is not so easy.
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Originally Posted by davekp78
You should.
My C-6 would retain almost 1 quart if I didn't level it.
But, getting a jack and cross brace under the rear is not so easy.
Just added this idea to my PDF (post #9 in this thread) for a cross brace that if your low profile jack fits it should as well. When you remove the existing jack saddle this 3/8 inch thick cross brace should work! Did the deflection calculations and with rubber pads on the ends they will support the car from the ends. I'm looking for some 3/8 inch thick by 5 inch wide steel myself! Just tack weld a piece of pipe that fits your jack saddle hole.




Commercial Cross Beams or Braces are too wide. If fabricated from 3/8 inch thick steel it should be about the same height as the jack saddle that is removed.

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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
The figure in the 2016 manual is the same as the 2014/2015. One pic has an arrow that is incorrect or more accurately not showing specifically where to lift. There is only one cross brace on the front cradle that can be used to jack in the center, the rear most. The rear cradle should only be lifted at the outer edges as GM recommends. The C7 unlike prior Vettes uses hollow aluminum castings and it's a risk lifting at other that were GM says. I made a PDF of what I do to get my car up on all 4's and I don't use 4 jack stands. You'll see the warning label on one of my pairs of stands says jut that. Especially risky IMO if your getting underneath to remove a drain plug and oil filter.
http://netwelding.com/Jacking_A_C7.pdf
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GM recommenced jacking points from 2014 Service Manual, which I colored for clarity
Does anyone know if I have to go to the selling dealer for the free il changes ? Or can I go to the dealer of my choice ?
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bbcb
Does anyone know if I have to go to the selling dealer for the free il changes ? Or can I go to the dealer of my choice ?
Its a gm program, not a dealer program, go anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic
If you are a first time buyer of Race Ramps and you need the low 6.8 degree angle of the Xtenders, it makes much more sense to purchase one of the 2-stge incline ramp models. The 2-stage incline ramps are more economical, easier to use, and easier to store. They are also a more elegant solution than using XTenders.

On the other hand, if you purchased the 10.8 degree ramps, and later acquired a car that needed a more shallow ramp, then the XTenders make sense.

http://www.reverselogic.us/2-stage-incline-ramps.html
Do I know which ramps I have ? Nope I bought them years back so I could change the oil on my lowered C6. Are there marking on them that would identify the model ? If no, I will when it drys out such that I can get to the garden shed, measure their height & length.
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Does anyone know if I have to go to the selling dealer for the free il changes ? Or can I go to the dealer of my choice ?
I bought my C6 some 500 miles away from my town and the C7 150 miles away. The local Chevy service folks are happy to handle anything they get reimbursed for, beit oil changes or warranty work! The service department doesn't care where I bought my car, it's run as a separate profit center. GM reimburses them for the "free" oil/filter change.
They would have been happy to change my oil but so far was only back when I got the car 2 years ago for a GM requested check. I do my own oil changes.
For my C6 they happily performed several warranty repairs.

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