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Old Dec 14, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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I am looking to purchase a 2014 corvette conv. I have looked at a lot of pictures of the LT1 engines, but can't figure out why the LT1 460 HP has the add oil port on the left bank of the engine and the 465 HP does not show the add oil port. I realize the 465 HP is accomplished with the Z51 package. Could someone enlighten me on this issue.
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Z51 has a dry sump oil system. You fill the oil in a canister in the passenger rear portion of the engine bay.
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2014s with the NPP dual-mode performance exhaust system have 460 hp and 465 ft./lbs. of torque, regardless of whether or not the car is a Z51. Those without have 455 hp and 460 ft. lbs. The 460 hp version uses the dry sump system while the 455 hp one does not. On 2014s, there was no relationship between Z51 and hp or oiling system.
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
2014s with the NPP dual-mode performance exhaust system have 460 hp and 465 ft./lbs. of torque, regardless of whether or not the car is a Z51. Those without have 455 hp and 460 ft. lbs. The 460 hp version uses the dry sump system while the 455 hp one does not. On 2014s, there was no relationship between Z51 and hp or oiling system.
Thank you for the info: Why do they advertise the LT1 as 460 and 465Hp.
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Old Dec 15, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeegrinder
Thank you for the info: Why do they advertise the LT1 as 460 and 465Hp.
Someone is uninformed, lazy, or doesn't understand the difference between HP and torque.
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Originally Posted by coffeegrinder
i am looking to purchase a 2014 corvette conv. I have looked at a lot of pictures of the lt1 engines, but can't figure out why the lt1 460 hp has the add oil port on the left bank of the engine and the 465 hp does not show the add oil port. I realize the 465 hp is accomplished with the z51 package. Could someone enlighten me on this issue.
$40.000 USD. Vancouver Canada. 7 speed manual. 28K trouble free miles.
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$40.000 USD. Vancouver Canada. 7 speed manual. 28K trouble free miles.
Thank you for the info. It is equipped like I want, but I am looking for red.
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
2014s with the NPP dual-mode performance exhaust system have 460 hp and 465 ft./lbs. of torque, regardless of whether or not the car is a Z51. Those without have 455 hp and 460 ft. lbs. The 460 hp version uses the dry sump system while the 455 hp one does not. On 2014s, there was no relationship between Z51 and hp or oiling system.
I had a 2014 base stingray 3LT with NPP and no dry sump. 460HP

IMHO thats the way to go. I wish the Z06 did not force the dry sump. I don't like it.
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The NPP exhaust is supposed to add 5 to HP and Torque. Period.... Dry sump is not the reason for the HP/Torque difference.

So, W/O NPP 455 HP 460 Torque
with NPP 460 hp 465 Torque

Z51 doesn't mean squat for the HP. Z51 gives different gear ratios in the transmission and rear differential.


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Originally Posted by Spacewalker
I had a 2014 base stingray 3LT with NPP and no dry sump. 460HP

IMHO thats the way to go. I wish the Z06 did not force the dry sump. I don't like it.
Why don't you like it?

Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
The NPP exhaust is supposed to add 5 to HP and Torque. Period.... Dry sump is not the reason for the HP/Torque difference.

So, W/O NPP 455 HP 460 Torque
with NPP 460 hp 465 Torque

Z51 doesn't mean squat for the HP. Z51 gives different gear ratios in the transmission and rear differential.


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$40.000 USD. Vancouver Canada. 7 speed manual. 28K trouble free miles.
That's a great deal. Wish I could afford it. I'm just a lurker from the C5 forum. I'll be around in about 4 years looking to buy a car like that.
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
2014s with the NPP dual-mode performance exhaust system have 460 hp and 465 ft./lbs. of torque, regardless of whether or not the car is a Z51. Those without have 455 hp and 460 ft. lbs. The 460 hp version uses the dry sump system while the 455 hp one does not. On 2014s, there was no relationship between Z51 and hp or oiling system.
What you say in bold above is not accurate with regard to the oiling system. You're right that on the LT1 the extra 5 HP is just a function of the NPP equipage, according to GM, and that wet sump cars can also have NPP. However, all C7 Z51 models since the beginning have been dry sump, as have all Z06 and GS cars.

The purpose of the dry sump is for track use. Wet sump cars cornering under high-G loads with oil sloshing around can uncover the oil pickup in the oil pan (wet sump), which is not a good thing for engine health. Dry sump systems ensure that oil is always being consistently pumped throughout the engine regardless of G-loads.

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Originally Posted by mpuzach
2014s with the NPP dual-mode performance exhaust system have 460 hp and 465 ft./lbs. of torque, regardless of whether or not the car is a Z51. Those without have 455 hp and 460 ft. lbs. The 460 hp version uses the dry sump system while the 455 hp one does not. On 2014s, there was no relationship between Z51 and hp or oiling system.
Originally Posted by Foosh
What you say in bold above is not accurate with regard to the oiling system. You're right that on the LT1 the extra 5 HP is just a function of the NPP equipage, according to GM, and that wet sump cars can also have NPP. However, all C7 Z51 models since the beginning have been dry sump, as have all Z06 and GS cars.

The purpose of the dry sump is for track use. Wet sump cars cornering under high-G loads with oil sloshing around can uncover the oil pickup in the oil pan (wet sump), which is not a good thing for engine health. Dry sump systems ensure that oil is always being consistently pumped throughout the engine regardless of G-loads.
Yup, you are correct. As a result of trying to type quickly I made an error. What I should have said was:
  • Z51s use dry sump and non-Z51s do not.
  • Cars with NPP have 460 hp / 465 ft. lbs of torque whereas cars without have 455 / 460 respectively.
  • It's the NPP that adds 5 to both hp and torque, not the dry sump.
Thank you for pointing out my error.
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