A workable CD player for the C7
I listen to pandora and my flash drive for music. And my C6 came with a CD player which I never listen to.
It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
Kids don't drive C7s, old Fncks like me do.
GM should have a better grasp of who their customers are.
Besides, a CD player would cost GM no more than 50 bucks tops.
My guess is GM put some youngsters in charge of developing the C7 Infotainment System.
In that case, you must not have many CDs.
You consider sliding a disk into a slot in the dash difficult?
You wouldn't for long...
You would quickly realize you now have an extra and unnecessary cost because the car manufacturer didn't put a cheap little disk player in.
I have approx. 7,000 CDs.
Let's do the math...
7,000 x 5 minutes ripping time = 35,000 minutes
35,000/12 rips per hour = 2,917 hours
Anyone here want to volunteer 2,917 hours of your life to rip my CDs?
Me neither.
The thing is...I WANT to pre-select.
If you don't move the optical drive then you have to reserve space behind the dash for it. If you don't have one you are free to repackage the interior at random.
I think if a CD player would have fit in the glove box, they'd have put one in there. People would rather have storage.
Do a survey, ask people, cubby hole behind screen or CD Player. I bet you know which one will win (answer it's the cubby hole).
Oh wait, I guess we'd have a hard time finding any forum archives in the 70s and 80s.
I couldn't believe GM left the CD player out. Bummer
Check your Math.
7,000 x 5 minutes ripping time = 35,000 minutes
35,000 Minutes/60 Minutes = 583.333 hours.
583.333 hours x 12 rips per hour = 7000 CD's
Still a Looong time to covert your CD's to Digital.
About 1 1/2 years @ 1 hour a day

Check your Math.
7,000 x 5 minutes ripping time = 35,000 minutes
35,000 Minutes/60 Minutes = 583.333 hours.
583.333 hours x 12 rips per hour = 7000 CD's
Still a Looong time to covert your CD's to Digital.
About 1 1/2 years @ 1 hour a day


I ripped mine while watching football games during Sunday. You get quite a few CD's done with that method.
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I was being conservative 
As I mentioned in my other post, Considering the way Technology is going, it's a good idea to save them all in Digital form regardless.
I don't' have thousands of CD's, but what I have I don't use anymore.
They've all been Converted to Digital
Even with my cheap stereo in the Shop, I play all the music on my phone through the AUX port.
Also Spliced into the XM module with a DIY AUX jack in my 2007 GMC Envoy and play all my music from the Phone
Examples, first on my block with a VHS, first with DVD, first with Bluray and my pc is 4k HD and soon my home TV will be as well. Also, one of the first in high school to have an 8 track in my car, one of the first to have FM stereo in car, later one of the first to have in car CD.
I was also one of the first to explore and use MP3. At that early point in MP3 the sampling rate was very poor and music quality terrible. I had the best stereo for playing stereo LP records, when I was one of the first to switch to CD for home stereo the difference floored me. I was sold on CDs.
You own a CD you essentially own a copy of the studio master. Commercial interests have decided that they don't like this. They also have decided that, as in vehicles, that they don't like you "owning" and "controlling" "your" music in your vehicle. They want to sell it to you and shove it down your throat if necessary!
To me the use of CDs is all about music quality. Try a little test if you have the CDs. Find a millennial who listens to MP3s on earbuds. Have him listen to the same music, or exact song if you happen to have it, on CD with serious headphones. I've done this several times. It's is purely a riot to watch what happens. It's like they never heard the music before.
Even with my aging ears I can hear the difference loud and clear.
I am usually reading 6 or 8 books at a time around the house. Some might be science, some novels, some engineering, some cheap adventure stories. I prefer physical books. I know some people have tens of thousands of songs on their drives, or tens of thousands of books. How many songs do you listen to at once? How many books do you read at once?
When traveling or out for a drive I may take 12 or 15 CDs in a special case. I've got many hours of studio quality music in that small case and my small player that attaches to my laptop.
I would prefer to use CDs in my new Stingray*. I cannot stand the packaged music services and will not be using any of them. I don't need to impress anyone either now ( I like that! ) about how tech savvy I am. Everyone assumes I don't know anything. Until, for example, I shop for a new computer and enjoy making the salesperson soil their pants with my questions and comments about how it operates at machine language/chip level way way under the user interfaces etc.
I intend to deactivate, gut, remove if possible, the factory entertainment system. I might use the factory speakers but I doubt it...they are not good enough. I will replace the deactivated, gutted, or removed factory system with a new CD based plus broadcast radio system. Thank you very much. I will then have hundreds of songs available on an automatic CD changer instead of thousands on silicon. I'll be very very happy.
* I love my new Stingray. I considered a Z06. However, I decided to buy the Stingray since I much prefer the minimal styling, crisp, clean, and very purposeful. I have to tell you, going by comments I get when out in public with the car, that 99%+ of people have no idea it is even a vette. They think it is some kind of exotic. As for most people being more impressed if I had a Z06. I doubt it.
Having bought the SR I have plenty of spare change ( paid cash and would have for a Z06 too. ) to play with better quality CD based music.
Many will disagree yes. I know. It doesn't matter. My ears can tell the difference even at my age.
Last edited by Friendly guy; Dec 19, 2016 at 11:23 PM.
Interesting perspective, and thanks.
I thought my ears were very good at 63, confirmed by medical hearing checks, but I can't really discern any difference between CDs and Bluetooth streaming in any car audio system I've owned, which supposedly included many good ones. I also have friends that would go nuclear if anyone tried to tell them that CDs are "master quality," because in their world only vinyl disks or magnetic tape carry that lofty distinction. They'd say digital will never represent music reality as well as analog does. They'd also say, it's ridiculous to think that great audio could ever be heard in any car, no matter what the cost--it's a lousy listening environment w/ bad acoustics. Some of these people are actually 20-somethings today.
I started moving all my CDs to Apple devices when they debuted in the early 00s, and every piece of music I own is on my current iPhone, 7 generations of Apple devices later. I stopped buying CDs about 10 years ago, and started purchasing songs and the occasional album on iTunes. They just easily migrate from device-to-device, and I now have a massive collection on a single small device, backed up by the "Cloud" so they theoretically can't be lost.
The thought of picking out CDs to take with me in the car sounds like a complete nightmare to me. What I thought I wanted to listen to a couple of hours ago has no relationship to what I might decide I want to listen to in the moment.
Check your Math.
7,000 x 5 minutes ripping time = 35,000 minutes
35,000 Minutes/60 Minutes = 583.333 hours.
583.333 hours x 12 rips per hour = 7000 CD's
Still a Looong time to covert your CD's to Digital.
About 1 1/2 years @ 1 hour a day


Examples, first on my block with a VHS, first with DVD, first with Bluray and my pc is 4k HD and soon my home TV will be as well. Also, one of the first in high school to have an 8 track in my car, one of the first to have FM stereo in car, later one of the first to have in car CD.
I was also one of the first to explore and use MP3. At that early point in MP3 the sampling rate was very poor and music quality terrible. I had the best stereo for playing stereo LP records, when I was one of the first to switch to CD for home stereo the difference floored me. I was sold on CDs.
You own a CD you essentially own a copy of the studio master. Commercial interests have decided that they don't like this. They also have decided that, as in vehicles, that they don't like you "owning" and "controlling" "your" music in your vehicle. They want to sell it to you and shove it down your throat if necessary!
To me the use of CDs is all about music quality. Try a little test if you have the CDs. Find a millennial who listens to MP3s on earbuds. Have him listen to the same music, or exact song if you happen to have it, on CD with serious headphones. I've done this several times. It's is purely a riot to watch what happens. It's like they never heard the music before.
Even with my aging ears I can hear the difference loud and clear.
I am usually reading 6 or 8 books at a time around the house. Some might be science, some novels, some engineering, some cheap adventure stories. I prefer physical books. I know some people have tens of thousands of songs on their drives, or tens of thousands of books. How many songs do you listen to at once? How many books do you read at once?
When traveling or out for a drive I may take 12 or 15 CDs in a special case. I've got many hours of studio quality music in that small case and my small player that attaches to my laptop.
I would prefer to use CDs in my new Stingray*. I cannot stand the packaged music services and will not be using any of them. I don't need to impress anyone either now ( I like that! ) about how tech savvy I am. Everyone assumes I don't know anything. Until, for example, I shop for a new computer and enjoy making the salesperson soil their pants with my questions and comments about how it operates at machine language/chip level way way under the user interfaces etc.
I intend to deactivate, gut, remove if possible, the factory entertainment system. I might use the factory speakers but I doubt it...they are not good enough. I will replace the deactivated, gutted, or removed factory system with a new CD based plus broadcast radio system. Thank you very much. I will then have hundreds of songs available on an automatic CD changer instead of thousands on silicon. I'll be very very happy.
* I love my new Stingray. I considered a Z06. However, I decided to buy the Stingray since I much prefer the minimal styling, crisp, clean, and very purposeful. I have to tell you, going by comments I get when out in public with the car, that 99%+ of people have no idea it is even a vette. They think it is some kind of exotic. As for most people being more impressed if I had a Z06. I doubt it.
Having bought the SR I have plenty of spare change ( paid cash and would have for a Z06 too. ) to play with better quality CD based music.
Many will disagree yes. I know. It doesn't matter. My ears can tell the difference even at my age.
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I intend to deactivate, gut, remove if possible, the factory entertainment system. I might use the factory speakers but I doubt it...they are not good enough. I will replace the deactivated, gutted, or removed factory system with a new CD based plus broadcast radio system. Thank you very much. I will then have hundreds of songs available on an automatic CD changer instead of thousands on silicon. I'll be very very happy.
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My ears can tell the difference even at my age.
However although I am 7 years older than you and my ears are not that great at hearing higher frequencies, the C7 has so much road noise other than listening (feeling) the base in my 3LT with Janis Joplin singing "Cry Baby" and similar "Oldies" -my preference - could not tell an MP3 from other music. Yep I can in my home sound system but that isn't even as good at a concert hall!
I have my CD's converted to MP3's and have ripped many others from YouTube. I have my radio playing in shuffle mode from an SD card (I have a 2014 C7) as soon as I start the car, it's seldom turned off and I rarely have a passenger. It does drown out some but by no means all of the road noise.
While your ripping out the sound system you need to consider adding lots of sound insulation. Many Threads on the subject.
Last edited by JerryU; Dec 20, 2016 at 07:35 AM.
Examples, first on my block with a VHS, first with DVD, first with Bluray and my pc is 4k HD and soon my home TV will be as well. Also, one of the first in high school to have an 8 track in my car, one of the first to have FM stereo in car, later one of the first to have in car CD.
I was also one of the first to explore and use MP3. At that early point in MP3 the sampling rate was very poor and music quality terrible. I had the best stereo for playing stereo LP records, when I was one of the first to switch to CD for home stereo the difference floored me. I was sold on CDs.
You own a CD you essentially own a copy of the studio master. Commercial interests have decided that they don't like this. They also have decided that, as in vehicles, that they don't like you "owning" and "controlling" "your" music in your vehicle. They want to sell it to you and shove it down your throat if necessary!
To me the use of CDs is all about music quality. Try a little test if you have the CDs. Find a millennial who listens to MP3s on earbuds. Have him listen to the same music, or exact song if you happen to have it, on CD with serious headphones. I've done this several times. It's is purely a riot to watch what happens. It's like they never heard the music before.
Even with my aging ears I can hear the difference loud and clear.
I am usually reading 6 or 8 books at a time around the house. Some might be science, some novels, some engineering, some cheap adventure stories. I prefer physical books. I know some people have tens of thousands of songs on their drives, or tens of thousands of books. How many songs do you listen to at once? How many books do you read at once?
When traveling or out for a drive I may take 12 or 15 CDs in a special case. I've got many hours of studio quality music in that small case and my small player that attaches to my laptop.
I would prefer to use CDs in my new Stingray*. I cannot stand the packaged music services and will not be using any of them. I don't need to impress anyone either now ( I like that! ) about how tech savvy I am. Everyone assumes I don't know anything. Until, for example, I shop for a new computer and enjoy making the salesperson soil their pants with my questions and comments about how it operates at machine language/chip level way way under the user interfaces etc.
I intend to deactivate, gut, remove if possible, the factory entertainment system. I might use the factory speakers but I doubt it...they are not good enough. I will replace the deactivated, gutted, or removed factory system with a new CD based plus broadcast radio system. Thank you very much. I will then have hundreds of songs available on an automatic CD changer instead of thousands on silicon. I'll be very very happy.
* I love my new Stingray. I considered a Z06. However, I decided to buy the Stingray since I much prefer the minimal styling, crisp, clean, and very purposeful. I have to tell you, going by comments I get when out in public with the car, that 99%+ of people have no idea it is even a vette. They think it is some kind of exotic. As for most people being more impressed if I had a Z06. I doubt it.
Having bought the SR I have plenty of spare change ( paid cash and would have for a Z06 too. ) to play with better quality CD based music.
Many will disagree yes. I know. It doesn't matter. My ears can tell the difference even at my age.
Of course at home you need to listen to music on CD, or even better Vinyl (since music is an analog product and analog medium captures it the best). This is why I still buy CD's (I refuse to stream music, or purchase it online in digital only format). But this doesn't change the fact that in your car you can't get this level of sound quality.
My offer still stands...anyone want to come over to my place and rip 'em for me?




















