2018 changes - your thoughts?
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You are quite wrong my friend, go back in Chevrolet history & you will find that Chevy always put their most powerful/technologically advanced engines in a Camaro?.. No... the answer would be the Corvette, for example, the 1st fuel injected V8, the big block 427 3X2 cars, the L88, the 454, the ZL1, the LS7, LS9, etc... its always been about the Corvette & go fast
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You are quite wrong my friend, go back in Chevrolet history & you will find that Chevy always put their most powerful/technologically advanced engines in a Camaro?.. No... the answer would be the Corvette, for example, the 1st fuel injected V8, the big block 427 3X2 cars, the L88, the 454, the ZL1, the LS7, LS9, etc... its always been about the Corvette & go fast
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that would be very cool, but likely very expensive and weight adding mod of the current design of the C7 vert. A possible compromise might be a removable hardtop option like the 1's, 2's & 3's, but maybe out of aluminum or carbon fiber(pricey).
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Interesting that the just announced 2018 Mustang will have the joint GM/Ford A10 transmission. I wonder if the A10 will now work it's way from the Camaro ZL1 into other Camaro models and other GM cars although I know it's been posted that the A10 may or may not be able to fit into the Corvette.
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The only advantage a traditional muscle car has is a back seat. So if you have a girlfriend and still live with your parents and have no money for a motel room, it's the only alternative you have.
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I did! It holds a full water bottle in a 1 "g' turn and 1++ "g" stop!
I made it 3/32 inch deeper by removing the rubber pad on the bottom. It just lifts out.
The cup insert is not held securely and tilted, the reason for my water spill. Solved that with UV activated adhesive! Put a fillet along the bottom of both sides of the insert bottom and turned on the UV light!
Some soft side Velcro strips on the cup only to increase diameter and it works like a charm for me.
May not be what you want but the option is GM making the console higher-doubt that will happen and I would not prefer that approach. There is a torque tube right under the console, so can't go in that direction.
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Perhaps to the pedantically impaired. If you insist on the traditional definition of a "muscle car," what you have is a typical sedan with a big engine. A good example is the Nova SS. What is noteworthy about this automobile? Without the big engine, it is boring as hell. All you can do is point it in a straight line and push down the gas pedal. It will go pretty fast if you do that, but there's no particular skill required. All that distinguishes it from Dad's family sedan is a souped up motor. Put chrome-reverse wheels on it for a hundred bucks, and suddenly you had a 'muscle car.'
Today's Muscle Cars (Mustang, Camaro, Challenger) are being given a taste of Sportscar handling capabilities.
Manufacturers are slowly blurring the lines between the 2.
However, true Sportscars are NOT taking on Muscle Car characteristics.
They are not losing their all around performance (steering, braking, cornering) abilities.
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Just a thought.... Rather than add another new model to the line up, ZR1, GM could work with what they have now, adding some upgrades and HP bumps. Maybe 3 models is enough for the C7 generation? GM could continue to work toward the next generation and overlay the current product.
C7...... 480-500 HP 8A trans.
C7 GS.. 525-550 NA HP, 10A trans.
C7 Z06.. 675-700+ SC HP, 10A trans., cooling improvements.
regards, NEET C6
C7...... 480-500 HP 8A trans.
C7 GS.. 525-550 NA HP, 10A trans.
C7 Z06.. 675-700+ SC HP, 10A trans., cooling improvements.
regards, NEET C6
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Just a thought.... Rather than add another new model to the line up, ZR1, GM could work with what they have now, adding some upgrades and HP bumps. Maybe 3 models is enough for the C7 generation? GM could continue to work toward the next generation and overlay the current product.
C7...... 480-500 HP 8A trans.
C7 GS.. 525-550 NA HP, 10A trans.
C7 Z06.. 675-700+ SC HP, 10A trans., cooling improvements.
regards, NEET C6
C7...... 480-500 HP 8A trans.
C7 GS.. 525-550 NA HP, 10A trans.
C7 Z06.. 675-700+ SC HP, 10A trans., cooling improvements.
regards, NEET C6
Just out of curiosity, how my heat exchangers/extractors does the Z06 have? I know the ZL1 has 11.
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IMO, as far as power goes, the only significant change would be to bump the GS to around 480hp.
YMMV.
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Should be time for a mid model refresh maybe consisting of a 25 HP bump and some option changes ie, carbon fiber dash upgrade is expanded to the console and probably a new color or colors.
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I'll just say this: You don't build a new paint shop and have it open for the 2018 market without taking advantage of it.
If the interview from a few months ago holds true, there will be a color line specifically for the paint shop and the current colors designated as "legacy" colors until they're also converted to the new facility. Sterling Blue was probably discontinued to lighten the load and ease the conversion process. If there is a replacement, it will probably be among the first "new 2018 colors" to be announced and become the flag bearer of the new paint shop.
While I'm on the topic, there also might be additional hash color variants to boot for the Grand Sport.
If the interview from a few months ago holds true, there will be a color line specifically for the paint shop and the current colors designated as "legacy" colors until they're also converted to the new facility. Sterling Blue was probably discontinued to lighten the load and ease the conversion process. If there is a replacement, it will probably be among the first "new 2018 colors" to be announced and become the flag bearer of the new paint shop.
While I'm on the topic, there also might be additional hash color variants to boot for the Grand Sport.
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http://www.musclecarclub.com/muscle-car-definition/
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How many times do we have to go over this? The Corvette is not a muscle car, it's a sports car. This is the definition of a muscle car:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/muscle-car-definition/
http://www.musclecarclub.com/muscle-car-definition/
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How many times do we have to go over this? The Corvette is not a muscle car, it's a sports car. This is the definition of a muscle car:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/muscle-car-definition/
http://www.musclecarclub.com/muscle-car-definition/
How many times? You are a funny guy! Seems to me as a kid growing up in the 1960's when "muscle" cars were in their heyday, our local street races were almost always won by a "sports" car called a Corvette. The link that you posted means nothing to me as I personally witnessed the "sports" car that you call a Corvette ripping off some impressive 1/4 mile passes, going by Chevelles, Novas, & GTO'S. Seems to me that IS a muscle car
