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Old 07-19-2017, 03:28 AM
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Here is another way to look at it. I lost money trading the 17 for the 18, why should everyone else get the benefit of having my digital readouts without paying for it like I did? In reality I would be perfectly happy if they upgraded everyone, but on the other hand...Why shouldn't you just buy an 18 if you want the upgrades? That's not why I started this thread, but since people brought it up...
Old 07-19-2017, 06:13 AM
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Very cool update. Thanks for sharing.
Old 07-19-2017, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueDevilZ51
justed posted in the "Ask Tadge" section ofthe site to see if we can get that question answered.
He already answered some time ago. NO.
Old 07-19-2017, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
He already answered some time ago. NO.
i believe that was about the PDR
Old 07-19-2017, 11:22 AM
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Correct, but many of us believe it applies more broadly across the platform. People can wish all they want, but don't count on it....
Old 07-19-2017, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueDevilZ51
i believe that was about the PDR
No, it was about my question regarding the missing engine temp pocket gauge in 2015 and 16 Z06s
Old 07-19-2017, 11:36 AM
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I've heard it said multiple times in different venues, one was at the bash for something different (the radio upgrades I think). It's a common message....
Old 07-19-2017, 11:45 AM
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Good improvement, but man those tire pressure readings look high.
Old 07-19-2017, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by defaria
Not buying it.
I think what he means is there would need to be Quality Assurance testing which takes time and resources despite how simple the update is.
Old 07-19-2017, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
That's a huge improvement! Always thought those vague bars in Track mode were useless.

I guess it's too much to hope for that those software changes be integrated into previous years displays as an update.
I don't think they ever do. Microsoft and similar companies back-port security and bug fixes but rarely features to prior operating systems. Heck, they still (rarely) update Windows XP, could you imagine GM coming out with an update for the software in your C5?

Besides, they have a vested interest in you getting the new car, I suppose...
Old 07-19-2017, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
Good improvement, but man those tire pressure readings look high.
No kidding. We have been getting big temp swings. They are 32 in the morning.
Old 07-19-2017, 12:46 PM
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I have a 2016 Harley Davidson Road Glide. HD updated their touring line to include an infotainment system in 2014. They regularly update the system, and all you have to do is download the patch or upgrade to a flash drive, and plug it into the bike. You don't even have to go to the dealer to get the updates, you go right to their website and DIY it.

I've never understood why GM (or any other automotive manufacturer, for that matter) doesn't do the same thing. Here's a link to the HD download site. Easy peasy, I've updated my bike 4 times already since I brought it home a year and a half ago...

http://www.harley-davidson.com/conte...downloads.html
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Late model years always get the good stuff
Old 07-19-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by defaria
Not buying it.
complexities meaning "costs too much to have the dealer update every car"

I dont understand how the hell they thought that gauge, that is hard enough to read parked, was a good idea for track mode. JFC

It's kind of funny- despite having virtually infinite freedom for layout with LED screen, the C7 gauges are substantially worse than the C6. Temps are virtually impossible to read at a glace. The gas and temp gauges on the right are "eh" at best. the speedometer on the left is BEYOND useless. And I can't get an accurate understanding of my temps from the LCD screen. I just dont get how the heck this gets through. It's not like it costs GM any more to make the gauges have a digital readout anyway.

I wonder if I can get a 2018 ECU or whatever controls that and put it in my car. That's actually really important to me.

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Thanks for sharing. Would be nice if this could be backwards compatible but as others said it would cost money so I wont hold my breath.
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Originally Posted by village idiot
complexities meaning "costs too much to have the dealer update every car"

I dont understand how the hell they thought that gauge, that is hard enough to read parked, was a good idea for track mode. JFC

It's kind of funny- despite having virtually infinite freedom for layout with LED screen, the C7 gauges are substantially worse than the C6. Temps are virtually impossible to read at a glace. The gas and temp gauges on the right are "eh" at best. the speedometer on the left is BEYOND useless. And I can't get an accurate understanding of my temps from the LCD screen. I just dont get how the heck this gets through. It's not like it costs GM any more to make the gauges have a digital readout anyway.

I wonder if I can get a 2018 ECU or whatever controls that and put it in my car. That's actually really important to me.
I'll respectfully disagree and declare drinking the kool aid. I find the gauges very well done and familiar to aviation glass cockpit systems displays (green/yellow/red, steady vs. flashing, min and max ranges, etc.). The track symbology on performance chapter page 1 is meant for a very quick crosscheck of if you are in or out of limits, and trending change. Too much time is wasted by depending on digits and mentally processing if you are within limits. Fortunately if you want digits you can use a touring theme on performance chapter page 1.

As far as the analog gauges, I consider the left analog speedometer purely standby instrumentation should the HUD and center display not be available. The fuel gauge is easy enough to see and I generally don't care about the boost gauge minus cross checking on the front straight if I'm concerned about heat soak. My primary instrument for speed is usually the HUD, secondary on the center display digits, standby with the left analog.

I'm not a fan of the 2015 and 2016 not allowing engine coolant temp to be one of the four instruments on track theme performance chapter page 1.


It's all about the cross check.

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Old 07-19-2017, 07:25 PM
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wait, you think it's more time consuming to read the needle gauges than to read "230 degrees" and ponder if that's getting too hot?

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Yes. For a cross check digits are less efficient than round or bar gauges at understanding if you are in or out of limits. Digits are better for precise diagnostic information like a power trend check, oil level procedure for dry sump, speed limit compliance.

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Old 07-19-2017, 09:29 PM
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Does this make my 2017 Z06 Vert obsolete?
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We're there any changes in the gauges from earlier years of the C7 that were made and if so, were they back ported?

I'm with everyone in thinking there should be portions that are easily upgraded with a patch and those should be user upgrades. The car has its own cellular connection, should be a piece of case to segment off the code that can be upgraded and just push it out. Would be a great "win" for GM I think to compete with the likes of Tesla. That said, they have to build the code to support it and I don't think the platform is in that position as it stands. Maybe future models will be ( the C8) but my guess is the C7 is stuck with manual updates only from the dealer.


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