Well you'd expect that a 2018 goes into production in July of 2017 and that the map data is at least 12 months old. So that means the data would be from July 2016. Depending on how often the data is refreshed (once a year, twice a year, quarterly), that data could be up to another 6 months old (assuming a yearly cadence).

So if we add all these up you get 18-30 month delay in your data (more delay as you get further in the model year).

 

I agree with you that it IS that way, but it should not be. The actual Navteq database is updated quarterly. The data plugged into the car when its assembled should be what is current at that time. My car was built in May 2015 and had 2012 data in it. Not acceptable, just lazy production procedures.

The '2018' data update that GM is peddling for $140 is 2016 data at best, not what is current in Navteq's database.

 

Yes, BUT I'd bet 99% of C7 owners are carrying a smart phone with them, so you're not avoiding it by using the car nav.

 

Just a safety note about using a trickle charger. I used a similar procedure on a Acura. I found that a trickle charger was inusfficient to keep the battery alive during the procedure that lasted a couple hours. I recommend using a real battery charger instead. A trickle charger does not put out a lot and it may not keep up with the current draw. Turning off your headlights helps too.

 

They can't update it based on when your car was built. Because they'd have to validate new software constantly.

I think if you got 18 month old data you'd be at the "best" of what you're going to get. So right now GM is slacking a little, they need to be about 12 months better.

A good battery tender should be a combo battery charger/trickle charger.

Not really true, I have my personal data pretty much locked down. I don't even sign into Google on my phone (I use IMAP for e-mail), I block most apps from using my location, and I'm very aware of what apps are running when and what data they can collect.

I also don't use any social media but Instagram (No Facebook, Twitter, Snap Chat, etc) and have no other online presence outside of Car Forums and Xbox Live.

Granted maybe 99% of C7 owners don't care about their data.

 

How about a fix for the dudes car, not an argument about google and android?

 

makes 2 of us. Wth, with Android auto being free one wonders why ?

 

So LT1 Z51 (someone quoted you), let me get this straight. You have data that proves that Google/Apple actually make more than $140 on you (and, of course you get no value in return)? How exactly do they do that? Oh yeah, they "advertise" to me (which, BTW, I largely block with ad blockers - it's really not that hard to do) products to me that I might be interested in and I'm fully allowed accept or reject each and every offer? And for this so called inconvenience I get tons of value from your services without receiving a single bill?!? Sign me the "f" up!

What is so bad about advertising? I mean I agree they can be a nuisance, especially when they use annoying tactics like popups and animated gifs, they don't really match my interests or when I've seen them a million times already. But they're easily blocked, skipped over or ignored. I do that all the time!

Do you actually have that little control in your life that you cannot determine, when you see an ad, whether you desire the product more than the money it would cost, or whether you'd prefer to not purchase and keep your money instead?!? Are you that hypnotised such that you cannot refuse the offer? If so I suggest you see professional help. And can't you admit than if you did desire the product more than your money and purchased it that you receive a certain amount of value in the purchase?!?

Oh, and LT1 Z51, don't bother responding because I won't see it (unless somebody else quotes you again).

 

all true and all free from Google in real time no less !

You are so right !

 

I'm so sorry that you are tired about hearing about it. I'll keep it brief so that I don't further labor the issue.

I agree, however I think folds would rather contribute to keeping the maps up to date and some disclosed information sharing, instead. Of paying the 140 for data that is out of date before the data is even purchased. The Google model keeps things much more current and fresh than the non personal data tracked method.

 

Yes, so it is true for the 99%.

 

I will wager there is a whole lot more information about you floating around than you realize.

 

Some people are just irrationally paranoid.

 

So true.

 

Since you can't see my posts you don't know I already answered those questions.

I'm aware there is a lot, and most of it you can't control (anything banking or government related).

I'm no tin foil hat, but I'm not going to purposefully ADD to that data out there. My goal is to give as little data possible to corporations like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple. I have no issue with Banks and the Government having my data.

I'm especially not giving away my data to get stuff for "free." It's just not worth it.

If that's irrationally paranoid so be it.

I was hoping people were smarter than that. I have a lot of misplaced faith that people are smarter than they actually are about things.

We did that, on page 1.

There isn't much else to say about it. This is the internet, specifically a car forum, if you are on topic after the 1st page consider your thread to be of high quality.

 

The scary part is just how much information our respective states are peddling. I still get those damn frigg'n letters asking me to purchase extended coverage on my long gone C6 Z. Then there are the mailers from several insurance companies wanting me to switch to them. Makes me wonder what all OnStar is peddling .........

 

Dealer loaded new HMI then nav update under warranty. Problem solved. Thanks to those who made constructive suggestions, less so to the other kind. You know who you are.

 

That's good to hear. Congrats!

 

Good news. Glad she's fixed!

 

The only cost to me was the calories I didn't need from the two doughnuts the dealership provided.