C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Leather on dash delaminating

 
Old 10-11-2017, 08:26 AM
  #1  
RVC
CF Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
RVC's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2016
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 260
Thanked 49 Times in 40 Posts
Default Leather on dash delaminating

Hello all, I have a question. I have a 2014 3LT Z51 and I noticed the other day that the leather in passenger side dash is pulling up form the pad (there is an air bubble under leather) right where the stitching meets the defroster. Here is a pic, if you zoom in you can see a line that looks like discoloration in the dash. The part that has air under it is closest to windshield. Anyone else have this problem? The picture makes it look better than it really is, there is a definite noticeable discoloration and car is out of warranty so this concerns me cause it will get worse. I use sunshades religiously.
Attached Images  

Last edited by RVC; 10-17-2017 at 06:53 PM.
RVC is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 08:28 AM
  #2  
thill444
CF Senior Member
 
thill444's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2017
Location: New England
Posts: 1,754
Thanked 565 Times in 403 Posts
Default

Someone else posted a similar problem several months back. His was also a 2014 and it was no longer covered under warranty.
thill444 is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 08:36 AM
  #3  
c54u
CF Senior Member
 
c54u's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,087
Thanked 374 Times in 280 Posts
Default

I would take it to the dealer and see if they can goodwill a replacement.

Or if that doesn't work, call GM customer service and see what they can do for you. I had my gauge cluster go defective on my Monte Carlo and it was out of warranty for two years and GM customer service arranged with the dealer to have the cluster replaced. GM would pay for half of the replacement, which I thought was quite sporting of them.

If you don't ask, you don't know.

c54u is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 09:49 AM
  #4  
Gearhead Jim
CF Senior Member
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Gearhead Jim's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 20,790
Thanked 639 Times in 448 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13
Default

Several C6 people with the 4LT leather dash were reporting the same problem, so it looks like GM is establishing a new "Corvette Tradition" to go with the new idea of a leather dash.

Gearhead Jim is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 10:40 AM
  #5  
rmorin1249
CF Senior Member
 
rmorin1249's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2012
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 5,811
Thanked 1,234 Times in 873 Posts
St. Jude Donor '15-'16,'18
Default

Leather dashes are notorious for delaminating/cracking, etc. A common issues for BMW as well, at least their older cars. Using a windshield shade helps reduce the heat load on the dash but I guess it's too late for your car. Sorry for your trouble.

Last edited by rmorin1249; 10-11-2017 at 10:40 AM.
rmorin1249 is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 10:53 AM
  #6  
Blue-C7 of Jax
CF Senior Member
 
Blue-C7 of Jax's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 3,083
Thanked 474 Times in 369 Posts
Default

If you have no luck with GM take your car to an automotive upholstery shop.
Blue-C7 of Jax is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 10:55 AM
  #7  
dork
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2012
Location: Miss'ippi
Posts: 1,126
Thanked 155 Times in 100 Posts
Default

Ours is bubbling between the frames that outline the HUD port. I searched this forum for other incidents and found several other owners who decided just to "live with it" which is what I, too, decided. I purchased one of those dash mats to cover it and also protect the rest of the dash (though sight-unseen it's a moot point). I know; a 3LT with a mat looks cheesy...

My alternative was to let a reluctant dealership R&R a new dash panel in our car. To paraphrase, the service writer said something like, "we're willing to do it, and obviously it's covered under the warranty, but there are so many electrical connections it's a risky endeavor and we're not sure you wouldn't be opening a can of worms of electrical problems. They could be constant enough that we could find and fix them, or they could be sporadic and rare enough that replicating the problem might be a nightmare. We suggest that we could just make a small cut and inject a syringe of glue in the area."

His summed up my forum research very accurately--there are at least two forum authors who complained about sporadic electrical problems after a dashboard R&R (you can find them with a serious search). I decided just to cover it with a dash mat because I'm not sure how a glue that dries hard might look under a soft "leather" surface. And there's the cut to consider.
dork is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 11:30 AM
  #8  
phileaglesfan
CF Senior Member
 
phileaglesfan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2007
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 19,193
Thanked 106 Times in 95 Posts
Default

Some things just don't change between redesigns. With all the new parts that GM supposedly used you would think they would have replaced them with good ones.
phileaglesfan is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 01:04 PM
  #9  
c54u
CF Senior Member
 
c54u's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,087
Thanked 374 Times in 280 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RVC View Post
Yeah having the dealer remove my dash is does not instill confidence. Along with potential electrical problems the rattling and creaking would be inevitable. it sucks because it's gonna look terrible eventually.
Supposedly it is a 15 hour job for the dealer to replace it.

Take a look.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-new-dash.html
c54u is offline  
Old 10-11-2017, 02:50 PM
  #10  
KGrant
CF Senior Member
 
KGrant's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2016
Location: Northville Michigan
Posts: 1,358
Thanked 249 Times in 171 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RVC View Post
Hello all, I have a question. I have a 2014 3LT Z51 and I noticed the other day that the leather in passenger side dash is pulling up form the pad (there is an air bubble under leather) right where the stitching meets the defroster. Here is a pic, if you zoom in you can see a line that looks like discoloration in the dash. The part that has air under it is closest to windshield. Anyone else have this problem? The picture makes it look better than it really is, there is a definite noticeable discoloration and car is out of warranty so this concerns me cause it will get worse. I use sunshades religiously.
Wow! I couldn’t see what you were talking about until now. I changed my dash pad so I know the hours I put it to just do that so I can see if they need to remove the entire dash how it could take 10-15 hours. The dash panels at the windshield probably just snaps in and out into place.

If it is covered by warranty I wouldn’t hesitate to let them remove and replace rather than it gets worse and in other spots and then goes out of warranty. I don’t see any other option unless slit the leather close to the windshield and let any air pockets out and then use a heat gun and see if that would shrink the leather and smooth out the air pocket. If that works I would then get leather glue under the leather and apply pressure and smooth it out.

Again, if it were me I would get it done under warranty as it’s not much more screws to undo than when I changed my dash pad.






Last edited by KGrant; 10-11-2017 at 02:52 PM.
KGrant is offline  
Old 09-24-2018, 03:47 PM
  #11  
brandoncasey2002
Junior Member
 
Member Since: Sep 2018
Posts: 21
Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVPo...ature=youtu.be

Heres a vid on the subject, with the cost for repair and the email used to get it fixed.
brandoncasey2002 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to brandoncasey2002 For This Useful Post:
A320Flyer (09-25-2018)
Old 09-25-2018, 08:09 PM
  #12  
MMD
CF Senior Member
 
MMD's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,814
Thanked 336 Times in 242 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by KGrant View Post
Wow! I couldnít see what you were talking about until now. I changed my dash pad so I know the hours I put it to just do that so I can see if they need to remove the entire dash how it could take 10-15 hours. The dash panels at the windshield probably just snaps in and out into place.

If it is covered by warranty I wouldnít hesitate to let them remove and replace rather than it gets worse and in other spots and then goes out of warranty. I donít see any other option unless slit the leather close to the windshield and let any air pockets out and then use a heat gun and see if that would shrink the leather and smooth out the air pocket. If that works I would then get leather glue under the leather and apply pressure and smooth it out.

Again, if it were me I would get it done under warranty as itís not much more screws to undo than when I changed my dash pad.
Try purchasing a dash mat. They are more effective at keeping the dash cool in the sun than Windows shade. You can get them for under a $100. Good insurance.
MMD is offline  
Old 09-25-2018, 08:29 PM
  #13  
JDMvette7
CF Senior Member
 
JDMvette7's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Location: Western NY
Posts: 540
Thanked 78 Times in 29 Posts
2018 C7 of Year Finalist
Default

I bought a 2015 earlier this year and had mine replaced. The car was CPO and I argued that it should be covered and GM paid half and the dealer who sold me the car paid half of the remaining. Really sucks, but happy to have it replaced.
JDMvette7 is offline  
Old 09-25-2018, 09:48 PM
  #14  
KnightmareCS
CF Senior Member
 
KnightmareCS's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 963
Thanked 38 Times in 34 Posts
Default

Asking this question to the dash swap guys: is the only way to remove the dash speakers is to take apart the dash? Is there no easier way?
KnightmareCS is offline  
Old 09-25-2018, 09:58 PM
  #15  
Jmhornz71
CF Senior Member
 
Jmhornz71's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: Hampton VA
Posts: 1,115
Thanked 158 Times in 130 Posts
Default

My 2015 has this problem I am out of warranty and havent even asked about it. For now I will live with it. I may go to an upholstery shop to see if there is any way to glue it down. but Im not holding my breath on that
Jmhornz71 is offline  
Old 10-02-2018, 04:06 PM
  #16  
javenius
CF Senior Member
 
javenius's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2015
Location: Clinton Twp MI
Posts: 184
Thanked 53 Times in 42 Posts
Default

Does the delamination issue exist with the LT2 interior? If not why?
javenius is online now  
Old 10-02-2018, 04:45 PM
  #17  
NashvilleGrandSport
CF Senior Member
 
NashvilleGrandSport's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2015
Location: Nashville TN
Posts: 1,217
Thanked 265 Times in 204 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by javenius View Post
Does the delamination issue exist with the LT2 interior? If not why?
No, because the dash is NOT leather covered. It is vinyl.
NashvilleGrandSport is offline  
Old 10-02-2018, 05:05 PM
  #18  
javenius
CF Senior Member
 
javenius's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2015
Location: Clinton Twp MI
Posts: 184
Thanked 53 Times in 42 Posts
Default

Does anyone know if they have improved upon the leather and materials on the LT3 interior in the 2019's?
javenius is online now  
Old 10-02-2018, 08:20 PM
  #19  
MMD
CF Senior Member
 
MMD's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,814
Thanked 336 Times in 242 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by NashvilleGrandSport View Post
No, because the dash is NOT leather covered. It is vinyl.
Vinyl needs to be glued as well and GM is using the same adhesive on the vinyl as they are for the 3 LT dash. I would think if people would only put down a dash mat the dash temperature would be greatly reduced which would reduce the likihood of the adhesive failing. Excessively high temperature and UV are the culprit when leather detaches. It's a failure of the adhesive.
MMD is offline  
Old 10-02-2018, 09:24 PM
  #20  
montanaman
CF Senior Member
 
montanaman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Location: Somers,Montana
Posts: 268
Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MMD View Post

Vinyl needs to be glued as well and GM is using the same adhesive on the vinyl as they are for the 3 LT dash. I would think if people would only put down a dash mat the dash temperature would be greatly reduced which would reduce the likihood of the adhesive failing. Excessively high temperature and UV are the culprit when leather detaches. It's a failure of the adhesive.
But with a dash pad your covering up all that beautiful leather. Kind kills it for me. Shouldn't be this frequent of an issue.
montanaman is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Leather on dash delaminating


Sponsored Ads
Vendor Directory

Contact Us - About Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: