Breaking NEWS - 2019 Orders start early!
10-13-2017, 07:40 PM
#223
I have reached out to the dealer by phone and email asking that they work with me. I am a reasonable guy, but it seems to me they will make more selling me a new car than potentially taking my 2k. If they take the 2k, I bring my 2019 purchase to another dealer and they lose my next purchase of a mid engine or ZR1. Profit for that purchase will certainly be more than 2k. This is a business decision for them and me.
10-13-2017, 07:52 PM
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Well the benefit to a 2018 is you'll own a Corvette of the lowest production year since the 1950's (excluding 1983 of course)! And if you have a thing against odd numbers, 18 is an even year!
I'd put in an order for an odd color like the new Orange, and you'll own a very rare car at a very good price!!
I'd put in an order for an odd color like the new Orange, and you'll own a very rare car at a very good price!!
10-13-2017, 08:02 PM
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I bought a 2017 Z06 got a great deal a month after I got mine I knew the 2018 Z06'S were being delivered no big deal. Corvette action says no big changes for the 2019 lineup Stingray,GS and Z06. So whats the big deal unless you are holding out for a ZR1.
10-13-2017, 08:13 PM
#227
Good for you. The car might be different, the prospect of having a 10 speed auto would in my opinion make it well worthwhile to what a sort time more for delivery. In any case you can be certain that a few quirks in the 2018 will be addressed in the 2019 not to mention a better paint job. All worth waiting for.
10-13-2017, 08:17 PM
#228
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So I just got an email from MacMulkin that my 2018 is now at "3000" with a TPW of 1-1-18. So my deposit ($2000) is toast if I back out. So essentially a Corvette built 14 days after mine is a 2019, while mine is a 2018. Nicole at MacMulkin has been wonderful to deal with, and I have no gripe against MacMulkin, she said they were totally blind-sided by this too, but it really galls me to have to take a depreciation hit above and beyond what I'm already taking as the original owner of a brand-new Corvette. I'm really debating whether or not to just kiss the $2K goodbye and just wait for a 2019, especially if GM doesn't do away with the Admiral Blue, like the 2018 I ordered. Any thoughts?
Doesn't the timing of this seem a little unseemly? I mean GM does a national allocation sweep on 10-11 October and then the day after on 12 October, we immediately get locked in with our orders at 3000 status and can't get our deposit back? Wouldn't the right thing for GM to have done is to have made the announcement of their plans to terminate the 2018 model year 6 months early and then done the sweep a few days afterwards. Just saying....
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10-13-2017, 08:36 PM
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Blue666, we are all in it together now. My situation is identical and I feel the same way. Talked with Mark at MacMulkin and he also confirmed that hoping to apply the deposit to a 2019 order was a non-starter.
Doesn't the timing of this seem a little unseemly? I mean GM does a national allocation sweep on 10-11 October and then the day after on 12 October, we immediately get locked in with our orders at 3000 status and can't get our deposit back? Wouldn't the right thing for GM to have done is to have made the announcement of their plans to terminate the 2018 model year 6 months early and then done the sweep a few days afterwards. Just saying....
Doesn't the timing of this seem a little unseemly? I mean GM does a national allocation sweep on 10-11 October and then the day after on 12 October, we immediately get locked in with our orders at 3000 status and can't get our deposit back? Wouldn't the right thing for GM to have done is to have made the announcement of their plans to terminate the 2018 model year 6 months early and then done the sweep a few days afterwards. Just saying....
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10-13-2017, 08:51 PM
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said the spider to the fly.....with all due respect 
Personally speaking, I have to agree with this. I've owned a 1990 ZR-1 for 23 years now. Would I love a brand new Corvette? Hell yeah.
Would I love a new C7 ZR1? Absolutely.
Would I get rid of my ZR-1 so I get the latest and greatest? Hell no.
I don't care about how much the ZR-1 is worth, or could be worth.
What matters to me most is whether or not it puts a smile on my face each and every time I drive it. Once it stops doing that, THEN it's time to get rid of it and go after the latest and greatest.
Enjoy what you have, and appreciate what you've worked hard for. Life is too short to constantly be going after the latest and greatest - especially with the way technology changes these days.
Just my own $0.02.
Would I love a new C7 ZR1? Absolutely.
Would I get rid of my ZR-1 so I get the latest and greatest? Hell no.
I don't care about how much the ZR-1 is worth, or could be worth.
What matters to me most is whether or not it puts a smile on my face each and every time I drive it. Once it stops doing that, THEN it's time to get rid of it and go after the latest and greatest.
Enjoy what you have, and appreciate what you've worked hard for. Life is too short to constantly be going after the latest and greatest - especially with the way technology changes these days.
Just my own $0.02.
10-13-2017, 09:59 PM
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You're killing me, Foosh!! If anyone can tell the difference between a 2014 and a 2019 (not a frontal shot because: cameras) by looking at them, I'll eat my hat. And for the record, certain configurations, i.e.: Mine, are CHEAPER in 2018 than they were in 2017.
10-13-2017, 10:09 PM
#233
Not sure how many times you have sold a vette, this will be my 6th and 2nd C7, good luck with "the Kelly blue book says this " conversation..they all but laughed at me. What I have learned is you get what you can get for it ...every hard fought dime !!
Embrace the suck ...and get on to the next one...
Embrace the suck ...and get on to the next one...
10-13-2017, 10:22 PM
#234
yeah that is just a coincidence .....NOT
Blue666, we are all in it together now. My situation is identical and I feel the same way. Talked with Mark at MacMulkin and he also confirmed that hoping to apply the deposit to a 2019 order was a non-starter.
Doesn't the timing of this seem a little unseemly? I mean GM does a national allocation sweep on 10-11 October and then the day after on 12 October, we immediately get locked in with our orders at 3000 status and can't get our deposit back? Wouldn't the right thing for GM to have done is to have made the announcement of their plans to terminate the 2018 model year 6 months early and then done the sweep a few days afterwards. Just saying....
Doesn't the timing of this seem a little unseemly? I mean GM does a national allocation sweep on 10-11 October and then the day after on 12 October, we immediately get locked in with our orders at 3000 status and can't get our deposit back? Wouldn't the right thing for GM to have done is to have made the announcement of their plans to terminate the 2018 model year 6 months early and then done the sweep a few days afterwards. Just saying....
10-13-2017, 10:36 PM
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Blue666, we are all in it together now. My situation is identical and I feel the same way. Talked with Mark at MacMulkin and he also confirmed that hoping to apply the deposit to a 2019 order was a non-starter.
Doesn't the timing of this seem a little unseemly? I mean GM does a national allocation sweep on 10-11 October and then the day after on 12 October, we immediately get locked in with our orders at 3000 status and can't get our deposit back? Wouldn't the right thing for GM to have done is to have made the announcement of their plans to terminate the 2018 model year 6 months early and then done the sweep a few days afterwards. Just saying....
Doesn't the timing of this seem a little unseemly? I mean GM does a national allocation sweep on 10-11 October and then the day after on 12 October, we immediately get locked in with our orders at 3000 status and can't get our deposit back? Wouldn't the right thing for GM to have done is to have made the announcement of their plans to terminate the 2018 model year 6 months early and then done the sweep a few days afterwards. Just saying....
Conspiracy theory........Is Macmulkin the only dealer who pushed through 2018 orders a week before the announcement?......I haven’t seen any other dealers mentioned.......
10-13-2017, 10:46 PM
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Not sure how many times you have sold a vette, this will be my 6th and 2nd C7, good luck with "the Kelly blue book says this " conversation..they all but laughed at me. What I have learned is you get what you can get for it ...every hard fought dime !!
Embrace the suck ...and get on to the next one...
Embrace the suck ...and get on to the next one...
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10-13-2017, 10:57 PM
#237
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Same with mine, as I wanted the Z51 spoiler and wheels but for 2017 you had to get that as a package with MSRC, adding $2000 to the total. While I do like MSRC, I didn't find it an absolute must, so ordering a 2018 saved me $2000 compared to ordering a 2017 earlier.
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10-13-2017, 11:15 PM
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Not sure how many times you have sold a vette, this will be my 6th and 2nd C7, good luck with "the Kelly blue book says this " conversation..they all but laughed at me. What I have learned is you get what you can get for it ...every hard fought dime !!
Embrace the suck ...and get on to the next one...
Embrace the suck ...and get on to the next one...
Obviously, a car is only worth what someone pays for it.
Yes, exactly.
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10-14-2017, 09:39 AM
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I am convinced that the dealer had no control over any of this. I also believe that the GM never wanted this 2019 announcement to get out as it was probably a leak
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10-14-2017, 09:57 AM
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When has GM ever done that on a vehicle that is on the 6th year of production with what appears to be little to no changes?
It's not how the game is played. They will have to offer deep incentives on 16, 17, and 18's or dealers will be stuck with a glut of cars and will stop ordering new ones from GM.
Vehicle manufacturing plants are upgraded all the time. New ones are built all the time. This is planned, budgeted, forecasted, etc years in advance and it's not like GM or Ford, or VW, or Toyota jacks up the price of their vehicles in a single year to pay for a plant update/build.
It's not how the game is played. They will have to offer deep incentives on 16, 17, and 18's or dealers will be stuck with a glut of cars and will stop ordering new ones from GM.
Vehicle manufacturing plants are upgraded all the time. New ones are built all the time. This is planned, budgeted, forecasted, etc years in advance and it's not like GM or Ford, or VW, or Toyota jacks up the price of their vehicles in a single year to pay for a plant update/build.
I think it's apparent we can all agree that what's being done with the announcement of MY 19 on the surface doesn't seem to make sense.
So all we do is speculate on the motive. That's all I'm doing & I certainly could be all wet with my thinking.
But I remember back when threads of the C7 GS (before it was produced) were popping up here & half the guys said...nah, doesn't make sense for GM to do it...never happen.
Well, we all know how that speculation turned out.