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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 01:35 PM
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I kinda like staying NA. I did turbos for 28 years, I kinda want to go back to NA for a change. Not opposed to SuperC or Turbos though at all. Kinda interested in NOS these days too after seeing my brother have good success with hit kit.
Guess you need a change.Just thinking a bolt-on has got to be less Labor.Edelbrock is talking over 620hp for starters with no exhaust modification.Exhaust and proper tune gotta be another 40-50 jump.Cost just under 8G'S No labor.Not ready,Just Thinking
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Wasn't there a special diablo tuner that cant be seen?
So they say...but have seen no proof one way or the other and don't want to be the first to find out that it can be seen.
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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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OP. See if you can grab a lightweight stroker rotating assembly.

I did one on a 6.0 for my G8 back in the day and it was an animal. Of course the heads were ported but cam was small nothing crazy.

if you did just the stroker itself you would pick up 40 50lbft torque across the board to the tire. Completely different car.. more like the c6z. And it rev'd like a sport bike.

example. Car was a 12.70 109 110 car with just cam and the 6.0 plus LT's.

enter the stroker and ported stock heads same car stock 2.92. Rear gear stock TC ran 11.60s back to back at 122mph +.

my guess would be low 11@125 126mph on a GS A8. M7 similar mph. Just the stroker and LTs . Good air 10s high 120s.

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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lostsoul
Is it worth it to blow the warranty for 20-30 hp? Wasn't there a special diablo tuner that cant be seen?
Yea that's true.. I assume minor bolts ons like headers and x pipe and intakes.. Throttle body? Don't void warranties unless you do a tune... Although the parts may not do much without a tune
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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 02:56 PM
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Is that correct? I thought I heard the same...


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No, there isn't.
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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ShahulX
Yea that's true.. I assume minor bolts ons like headers and x pipe and intakes.. Throttle body? Don't void warranties unless you do a tune... Although the parts may not do much without a tune
If your installing long tube headers you will need A tune.
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How about 18 hp for nothing... other than refiguring horsepower from the "production car engine" adjustment factor used by GM to that of the exclusively aftermarket engine horsepower factor used by GM... and viola... 478 hp right there! Don't ask why but well documented.

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Originally Posted by lostsoul
Is it worth it to blow the warranty for 20-30 hp? Wasn't there a special diablo tuner that cant be seen?
Originally Posted by HorsePower Junkie
Is that correct? I thought I heard the same...
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So they say...but have seen no proof one way or the other and don't want to be the first to find out that it can be seen.
With today's technology, there is no tune that can't be found, and flashing back to stock does not conceal the fact that the ECM has been non-OEM reflashed. The only people who claim otherwise are tuners who are either ignorant, lying, or both, as well as naive customers drinking their marketing Kool-Aid.

In the case of engine failure, GM and every other manufacturer will find evidence the ECM has been reflashed and block your powertrain warranty.

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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Avanti
How about 18 hp for nothing... other than refiguring horsepower from the "production car engine" adjustment factor used by GM to that of the exclusively aftermarket engine horsepower factor used by GM... and viola... 478 hp right there! Don't ask why but well documented.
I'm not sure I understand.. Your saying the engine is really 478? Or something simple can make it 478?

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With today's technology, there is no tune that can't be found, and flashing back to stock does not conceal the fact that the ECM has been non-OEM reflashed. The only people who claim otherwise are tuners who are either ignorant, lying, or both, as well as naive customers drinking their marketing Kool-Aid.

In the case of engine failure, GM and every other manufacturer will find evidence the ECM has been reflashed and block your powertrain warranty.
Yea.. Maybe I'll leave the ecu alone.. See if any bolt ons really do anything
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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 06:44 AM
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Or you could drop a few extra $$, let Callaway have it for a few weeks, keep your warranty, have the power you want without the overheating issues, and have a car you can sell, if you need to, because most car guys won’t be afraid it’s been modded by an amateur mechanic. Jmo
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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 07:58 AM
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There are a number of tuners that sell quality and proven aftermarket parts.


LG Motorsports is one and a forum vendor. Have bought parts from them but not to increase power. They race Vettes and have excellent experience. Great customer service.

Have not seen the Katech name mentioned. Again have bought parts from them but not to increase power. They show a simple intake and tune that will give ~500 hp for ~$1800, an $8000 package that will yield 600 hp and for $24,000 a bored out 427 LT1 for a 700 hp NA engine!

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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 08:30 AM
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A nice CNC head/cam package with either a ported stock intake/TB or a MSD intake/102TB, along with headers should gain you about 100 rwhp...You could also go to E85 if its available in your area and gain another 30 hp or so... There are guys making 550 rwhp with stock bottom end LT1s.

Just don't get caught up in these big name shops and their big name packages that cost you $10k+....

Do your research...

Look up Pray Performance on FB....
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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
There are a number of tuners that sell quality and proven aftermarket parts.


LG Motorsports is one and a forum vendor. Have bought parts from them but not to increase power. They race Vettes and have excellent experience. Great customer service.

Have not seen the Katech name mentioned. Again have bought parts from them but not to increase power. They show a simple intake and tune that will give ~500 hp for ~$1800, an $8000 package that will yield 600 hp and for $24,000 a bored out 427 LT1 for a 700 hp NA engine!
yea the intake and tune may be the way to go and just a x-pipe... but im torn since I have 27 months left of the warranty... maybe I should wait..

I just think the Grand sport with 500-525 hp would be the perfect vette

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Old Nov 17, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ShahulX
im torn since I have 27 months left of the warranty... maybe I should wait..
Don't know about you, but 27 months goes by like 27 days for me nowadays. I'm going to run out at least 18-20 months of my warranty and see if there are any weak links due to my driving it like I want to...meaning a few trips to the drag strip and maybe the track, then a few back road burn-outs and see if anything fails. At that point I think I be more comfortable voiding warranty, though If I put headers on it and needed warranty work, I'd roll the dice and take it in to the dealer and see what happens.

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I just think the Grand sport with 500-525 hp would be the perfect vette
Agreed.
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For the love of god, whatever you do, do not go to Hennessey, he has a long and storied history of being a crook. Unless you are okay with him selling parts off of your car to fund other projects.
I tried to get an estimate at Hennessey on a supercharger for my 2016 base Stingray coupe A8 and they were $12 large and wanted to keep it for a month, so nope...
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Originally Posted by GTRSOLO
Don't know about you, but 27 months goes by like 27 days for me nowadays. I'm going to run out at least 18-20 months of my warranty and see if there are any weak links due to my driving it like I want to...meaning a few trips to the drag strip and maybe the track, then a few back road burn-outs and see if anything fails. At that point I think I be more comfortable voiding warranty, though If I put headers on it and needed warranty work, I'd roll the dice and take it in to the dealer and see what happens.



Agreed.
Yea.,.. when I did the street brake bunish procedure (50 x 60-0mph stops)... I was trying not to get ABS to kick on, but once I broke a bit too hard and the airbag passenger light came on and wouldnt go away randomly... not sure the 2 were related... but they fixed under warranty..

aslo had the power steering cooler installed under warranty for overheating...

Maybe I should give it another year... not sure I'll wait the full 3 lol...
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Originally Posted by GTRSOLO
Don't know about you, but 27 months goes by like 27 days for me nowadays. I'm going to run out at least 18-20 months of my warranty and see if there are any weak links due to my driving it like I want to...meaning a few trips to the drag strip and maybe the track, then a few back road burn-outs and see if anything fails. At that point I think I be more comfortable voiding warranty, though If I put headers on it and needed warranty work, I'd roll the dice and take it in to the dealer and see what happens.



Agreed.
If you are going to track it hard make sure you switch your oil to 15W40.
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I think I remember seeing a GM Performance Parts crate motor that is rated almost exactly what you’re looking for. Pull your stock engine and sell it for the best price, install the crate engine and you still have a warranty.
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Originally Posted by stevebz06
I think I remember seeing a GM Performance Parts crate motor that is rated almost exactly what you’re looking for. Pull your stock engine and sell it for the best price, install the crate engine and you still have a warranty.
I saw that ad too. I wondered why the Vette and Camaro don't come with whatever has changed on the crate engine.
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Originally Posted by Eddie @ WEAPON-X
If you are going to track it hard make sure you switch your oil to 15W40.
thanks for the heads up.
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