C7 reliability generally blows
There have been many threads here over the years, as well as other reliability surveys, and the 2014 MY has fared very well in several w/ the best reliability scores in the 14-16 cohort. I'm only one data point, but my 14 M7 was never in for any warranty repair in 4 years, except for the pass air bag recall, which was just a software reflash.
I also agree that CR readers are a unique tribe not heavily populated w/ sports car enthusiasts.
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Edit: and for all the conspiracy theorists, they gave it an overall score of 92.
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CR does not publish its raw numbers, so there is no way to evaluate its results completely. This is basic in any kind of research. Scientific and technical articles that did not do this one thing and submit to outside review would not even be published by any reputable journal. CR can do it only because it publishes its own results.
We have no idea how many owners are providing information to CR on any given model and year, so we don't know why there are big swings from year to year in some reliability areas, but these likely are at least partly the result of small numbers of responses. Interestingly, in all areas other than minor engine issues, 2017 C7 rates above average, usually much above average which according to the data they do provide (page 89), would mean far fewer than 1% problem rates. (There are a couple of areas where they do list insufficient data.) Yet they rate 2017 C7 far below average in reliability over all, which seems to me not to compute. Average for new cars in all cases is fewer than 1% problems.
Also note this statement (from page 38 of the April 2018 auto issue):
"For both surveys [reliability and owner satisfaction], we use CR's expert judgment based on brand track record in cases where we have insufficient survey responses, or when a model is all-new or redesigned."
The translation of this into plain English would be, "If we don't have data, we just use our own opinion."
Even so, CR's judgment of C7 (page 54) is highly positive, and in its surveys C7 is consistently at or near the top in owner satisfaction despite CR's judgment of reliability. Complaints from CR's own road test are "omnipresent tire noise" (not unfair for the coupe although exaggerated), "vague manual shifter" (you judge, I'm an A8 owner), and "low-slung cabin, which requires almost acrobatic skills to get in and out of." The latter is typical of CR's overstatement. It's really quite easy to get in and out although not the same as most cars. (You just sit on the seat and only then swing your legs in, reverse to get out.) I am a 68-year-old non-acrobat, and I don't have any trouble.
So indeed, the sky is not falling.
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Buddy 2014 here only problem as new was the OBD2 port didn't work at all. I took it to two diff dealers here in town & the next town over. I ended up having to take it 80 miles away to a dealer ship that had someone that could work on this small problem
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Last edited by Foosh; Mar 5, 2018 at 12:07 PM. Reason: Quote added due to intervening post
Survey experts call this "confirmation bias." This is "a tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions." (Follow the link for the whole quotation.)
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That wouldn't stop me from buying the car, and it didn't. Still was a no-brainer.
It's just amazing how tied up in this car some of the egos are around here. I can still love my car even if somebody points out that it might be more likely than my Prius to break. Who cares? Chances are neither will break.
That being said our 2017 Toyota Prius Prime is all tied up in the shop for 10 days now (they gave us a nice loaner car) while every Toyota tech from Newburgh, NY to Tokyo (they told me they were in touch with the factory on this clusterfark) is scratching their heads wondering why the hybrid system and automatic braking system warning messages won't go away and/or if those systems are defective or it's bad computer juju.
Serves me right for dissing the C7 with Consumer Reports libtard propaganda I suppose.
I never started the politics in this thread it was the right wing nuts.




















