Oil filter info for DIYers
#81
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The problem with that filter is that it's a full inch longer than the stock filter so it's going to sit lower than the oil pan and therefore there is that slight chance of road debris hitting it. Even though it's a small risk, that's one I'm not willing to take. The stock sized filters are not exposed at all, they are fully protected by the oil pan.
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Hmm, just scanned this Tread from page 1 and can't imagine why I had not posted.
This is the reason I only use the AC PF-64 and would use no other during warranty!
In the C7 intro time a car magazine doing a test had an engine failure! GM said it was due to a defective filter. Now if I use a Fram, WIX etc filter and have an engine failure and GM finds that was the cause I'm SOL! If it's the AC PF64 GM will have to cover the engine as I used their recommended product with their Brand name. I don't care who made it! Toured the WIX filter factor in our area with our local ASME section a few years ago and they make filters for many folks. Knowing how GM operates they go out for bids and will by from whoever will meet their spec for the "lowest cost to them!" (The Grand Sport OEM air filter says in big letters, MADE IN THAILAND!)
The probability of a filter failure causing an engine failure is very low BUT it's NOT ZERO!
How I Started Using AC Filters for My Vettes
For the first oil change in my C6 Z51 I made a PDF and posted a How To.. link on the forum. One of my Product Managers, who parked his C6 next to mine at work saw the PDF and said, "Saw in a pic you used a Fram filter? Terrible there was just a post where there was a Fram filter failure!" (But what did he know he was only a EEE-that's an EE with a Masters! )
On the next oil change used an AC filter and changed that pic! Showed my friend I made the change and we laughed!
Frankly for the service I subject the engine and since always change the oil as a minimum in one year (did that in the C6, my '93 and '88 Vettes because that is what the Ownwr's Manual has always stated) IMO all filter are perfectly fine-even AC!
In my Street Rod I do use a Fram as it is the only one that is readily available and short enough to fit on that 502 cid engine and the long tube headers! When warranty is up will probably take advantage of what every brand name filter is on sale that has the proper bypass pressure!!
This is the reason I only use the AC PF-64 and would use no other during warranty!
In the C7 intro time a car magazine doing a test had an engine failure! GM said it was due to a defective filter. Now if I use a Fram, WIX etc filter and have an engine failure and GM finds that was the cause I'm SOL! If it's the AC PF64 GM will have to cover the engine as I used their recommended product with their Brand name. I don't care who made it! Toured the WIX filter factor in our area with our local ASME section a few years ago and they make filters for many folks. Knowing how GM operates they go out for bids and will by from whoever will meet their spec for the "lowest cost to them!" (The Grand Sport OEM air filter says in big letters, MADE IN THAILAND!)
The probability of a filter failure causing an engine failure is very low BUT it's NOT ZERO!
How I Started Using AC Filters for My Vettes
For the first oil change in my C6 Z51 I made a PDF and posted a How To.. link on the forum. One of my Product Managers, who parked his C6 next to mine at work saw the PDF and said, "Saw in a pic you used a Fram filter? Terrible there was just a post where there was a Fram filter failure!" (But what did he know he was only a EEE-that's an EE with a Masters! )
On the next oil change used an AC filter and changed that pic! Showed my friend I made the change and we laughed!
Frankly for the service I subject the engine and since always change the oil as a minimum in one year (did that in the C6, my '93 and '88 Vettes because that is what the Ownwr's Manual has always stated) IMO all filter are perfectly fine-even AC!
In my Street Rod I do use a Fram as it is the only one that is readily available and short enough to fit on that 502 cid engine and the long tube headers! When warranty is up will probably take advantage of what every brand name filter is on sale that has the proper bypass pressure!!
Last edited by JerryU; 05-25-2018 at 10:38 AM.
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Like NASCAR engines are only designed to last for one race, and they are rebuilt.
#85
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True! I still think the best choices available currently are the new Wix and NAPA Gold filters (that have the 22psi bypass) and once it's available the Fram Ultra XG12060 will be the one I will use. The construction of the Ultra filter is top notch.
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Hello to all, I am a CORVETTE newbie and new to this Forum........however I'm a longtime 1970 Camaro owner,
restorer, and Nat'l judge.
Ive been reading these oil filter threads for days, and still dont comprehend what my correct choices are for
my newly acquired 2012 LS3 A6 wet sump Grand Sport. I'm leaning toward ordering WIX on the Internet or could
possibly go the NAPA Gold (made by WIX)
What has me uncertain is the By Pass Valve Setting PSI requirements for the LS-3 (vs some of you have the
LS 7/Z06)
These are the three WIX XP part numbers that I found which Im thinking would fit the engine.
Anybody out there have FACTS to answer my question and not just there "opinions"
By Pass Valve SettingHeight Media Flow Rate Thread Size
1) WIX 57060XP 12PSI 3.45 inches Synthetic 10-12GPM 22x1.5MM
2) WIX 10290XP 22PSI 3.45 inches Synthetic Not LIsted 22x1.5MM
3) WIX 57502XP 22PSI 4.09 inches Synthetic 10-12GPM 22x1.5MM
I do understand that #3 is longer and might hang too low....can anybody confirm that 3.45 inches should be max height filter
on C6/LS3 application
restorer, and Nat'l judge.
Ive been reading these oil filter threads for days, and still dont comprehend what my correct choices are for
my newly acquired 2012 LS3 A6 wet sump Grand Sport. I'm leaning toward ordering WIX on the Internet or could
possibly go the NAPA Gold (made by WIX)
What has me uncertain is the By Pass Valve Setting PSI requirements for the LS-3 (vs some of you have the
LS 7/Z06)
These are the three WIX XP part numbers that I found which Im thinking would fit the engine.
Anybody out there have FACTS to answer my question and not just there "opinions"
By Pass Valve SettingHeight Media Flow Rate Thread Size
1) WIX 57060XP 12PSI 3.45 inches Synthetic 10-12GPM 22x1.5MM
2) WIX 10290XP 22PSI 3.45 inches Synthetic Not LIsted 22x1.5MM
3) WIX 57502XP 22PSI 4.09 inches Synthetic 10-12GPM 22x1.5MM
I do understand that #3 is longer and might hang too low....can anybody confirm that 3.45 inches should be max height filter
on C6/LS3 application
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Why not use what is in the C6 Owner’s Manual. Being a judge you know they won’t take off a point!
Welcome to the forum!
Why not use what is in the C6 Owner’s Manual. Being a judge you know they won’t take off a point!
Welcome to the forum!
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2008 - 2013 Corvette: Service Bulletin: PF48 / PF48F Oil Filter Redesign Model Year: 2008 - 2013 Corvette with LS3 Engine Subject: PF48 / PF48F Oil Filter Redesign Source: Chevrolet Dealer Service Technical Bulletin Number: Ref. number: Parts / Product / G_0000190758 Date: 4/28/2014 To: Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, and Cadillac Dealers DESCRIPTION: ACDelco Oil Filters PF48 (GM# 89017524) and the Durapack version, PF48F (GM# 19167894) are transitioning to a new design that offers improved performance. The new part numbers are: PF48E(GM# 19303975) and PF48F (GM# 19303974). This will be a rolling change and the old version will not be available once stock is depleted. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: The PF48E primary performance improvement relates to the relief valve design. The PF48E has a compression spring loaded nylon poppet that outperforms the current valve design. Other benefits: Element integrity (collapse strength) is increased by 25%. This is because the nylon cores are perfectly round. Filter media, which is unchanged, is no longer potted in adhesive which blocks filtration area at each end. Filtration performance (efficiency and capacity) are both unchanged. The filter shell configuration is unchanged. Existing cap wrenches continue to fit. Hydrostatic burst and impulse fatigue performance are both unchanged. Relief valve performance is much improved and statistically more stable. Hot oil durability is improved by elimination of adhesive. Cold weather performance (-30 C) with dexos 1 oil is excellent. Improved level of robustness to water accumulation. Nitrile material used in the sealing gasket and the anti-drainback valve is unchanged. PF48E filters meet performance specifications as defined by GM Powertrain. PF48E filters will be used in OE production in the near future.
PF48E crosses to WIX 57060XP
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ACDelco-P...P1512/47068838
PF48E crosses to WIX 57060XP
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ACDelco-P...P1512/47068838
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