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Old May 8, 2018 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate@VanBortelChevy
Thanks for referring to this thread/post. I just want to chime in and state that my post on C6 depreciation is a generalized statement. There are many variables and +/-'s. I don't think it would be fair to compare used C6 depreciation to a 1 or 2 year old used C7.

Yearly depreciation percentage tends to be at it's greatest early in a Corvette's life and lessens as time goes on.
Based on your experience then what would be your reply to the original OP question? Do you have an empirical "rule-of-thumb" to assess depreciation for a C7? TIA
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Wow. I said it was a rule of thumb that I find useful. I also said generally why that is the number I use. Take it or leave it. I don't know why you seem to take it personally, get defensive, and turn it into some kind of competition. A competition that you win, of course. It's weird.
I don't take it personally nor do I consider it a competition to win. There seems that far too often people here will throw out numbers and opinion and have nothing to back up their claims (some times outlandish). What good is any advice if it's not based in fact? See the difference? I was just asking what is your rule of thumb based on.

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Old May 8, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Flo
The GS is march 2017 delivery. So if I understand, it's a one year old. So depreciate must be "only" 5%. Not 10.
It's a two year old car. 2019's are out. so its two model years old. That is how dealers will value them.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MMD
I don't take it personally nor do I consider it a competition to win. There seems that far too often people here will throw out numbers and opinion and have nothing to back up their claims (some times outlandish). What good is any advice if it's not based in fact? See the difference? I was just asking what is your rule of thumb based on.
Yeah, I should chill. I looked up some of your other posts. You're a real ray of sunshine. Glad you joined the forum.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fugly1
Yeah, I should chill.
Uncomfortable when faced with a tough question huh? OK... a good man got to know his limitations.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MMD
Based on your experience then what would be your reply to the original OP question? Do you have an empirical "rule-of-thumb" to assess depreciation for a C7? TIA
The bad news is there are plenty of brand new 2017's, 2018's and 2019's on dealer lots. Huge discounts on left over 17's and 18's. This is not good for someone with a 2017 looking to trade out of it. The good news is 2019 production is down, allowing the market to recover, very slowly. If trying to trade with a dealer that has new '17s offered at a great discount, taking a used 2017 on trade can hurt them. I wouldn't expect a great trade value in this case.

Fortunately we pushed our '17s and '18s out, from the start. All we have are brand new '19s and we have a use for used '17s. I think we could be pretty aggressive with the OP if he were after placing a custom order or taking one of our '19 Z06's on the lot. I think upper $50k's is realistic on a trade value, based on the information in the OP.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 04:59 PM
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It's very clear.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate@VanBortelChevy
The bad news is there are plenty of brand new 2017's, 2018's and 2019's on dealer lots. Huge discounts on left over 17's and 18's. This is not good for someone with a 2017 looking to trade out of it. The good news is 2019 production is down, allowing the market to recover, very slowly. If trying to trade with a dealer that has new '17s offered at a great discount, taking a used 2017 on trade can hurt them. I wouldn't expect a great trade value in this case.

Fortunately we pushed our '17s and '18s out, from the start. All we have are brand new '19s and we have a use for used '17s. I think we could be pretty aggressive with the OP if he were after placing a custom order or taking one of our '19 Z06's on the lot. I think upper $50k's is realistic on a trade value, based on the information in the OP.
Damn Nate! That's a great response. Have you sent the OP a PM? Think it could make his day.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 05:04 PM
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One thing you must remember when trading in, is that you save that amount in sales tax! That is a HUGE savings on sales tax, making up for the difference in price that youre losing. Its all how you look at it. You could sell it on your own for 60 ish, but then youre going to pay that extra 4-5k in sales tax on your new car.

Might as well do the trade and get your car and not have to hassle with anything. And come on buddy, you bought a new car, everyone knows you lose 5-10% pretty much right off the bat. That's been known for years and years. Once you blast off in the Z, youll not regret trading up one bit.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by badass1g
One thing you must remember when trading in, is that you save that amount in sales tax! That is a HUGE savings on sales tax, making up for the difference in price that youre losing. Its all how you look at it. You could sell it on your own for 60 ish, but then youre going to pay that extra 4-5k in sales tax on your new car.
This is not always true. It is not true here in Virginia.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 05:46 PM
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Could you explain how it works in Virginia?
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Old May 8, 2018 | 06:01 PM
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Steve R answer was great and Nate's last post is exactly what I have said. You have a few things going against you on a trade. You may come out a little better trying a private sale. I would never buy a used 2017 if it was anywhere near what I could pay for a brand new car.
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Originally Posted by badass1g
One thing you must remember when trading in, is that you save that amount in sales tax! That is a HUGE savings on sales tax, making up for the difference in price that youre losing. Its all how you look at it. You could sell it on your own for 60 ish, but then youre going to pay that extra 4-5k in sales tax on your new car.

Might as well do the trade and get your car and not have to hassle with anything. And come on buddy, you bought a new car, everyone knows you lose 5-10% pretty much right off the bat. That's been known for years and years. Once you blast off in the Z, youll not regret trading up one bit.
Correct.

The trade in works exactly that way in every State I've traded cars in.



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Thanks all for your answers.
I saw two Chevy Corvette dealership whose proposal was 53/54 K$. 10k$ less than when I bought it. I did not expect such a gap.
Keep shopping until you find the right car/deal.
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Old May 8, 2018 | 06:02 PM
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Could you explain how it works in Virginia?
You pay tax on the full amount and you do not get any credit for trade in amount. So if your final deal price is 70K and your trade in value 30K, your sales tax is still based on the 70K. What we have going for us in Virginia though is that sales tax is only 4.15%. Many other states are much greater than this. You can find this information at our DMV website here:

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/vehicles/#sut.asp


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Old May 8, 2018 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks a lot for your help. I do not know perfectly all the rules here. Not easy when you are a newcomer. Too many differences with France maybe.
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Old May 9, 2018 | 10:04 AM
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A really great thread as one can see about 3 or more ways that a used Corvette can be "priced" or valued as a trade-in, and the way dealers look at them given market conditions.
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