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50k of 150k GM will always be GM. To expect anything else is foolish. Noises, cracking windshields, Warble Noise,,Torque Converter defective, Poor paint quality.Radio display craping out. The list goes on and on. How anyone could defend them is rediculous. the last great cars from GM were in the 60s.When you buy a GM car you should not be supried at anything.
my only corvette I have over owned I bought a 2013 ZR1 in 2012 and tracked it for several years and never had a problem with it except I had to replace a clutch Once. I heard about paint problems with Corvettes before but this New ZR1 was purchased only to be a track car. If the paint was the only problem with this vehicle I wouldn’t even be complaining. If they don’t get my car back to me I might just have to turn the old 458 into a track car. Lol
I am having a hard time believing this story.... lets see the window sticker ..... I looked at your twitter feed.... no way GM shipped that car with that crack in the fender
I am in agreement. This is making absolutely no sense QC process, the dealers PDI and then the buyer......Got it that GM and dealer can make mistakes but this goes beyond a series of mistakes......
OP. Not to insult you but I'd like to present a possibility as to your cracked fender.. could a detailer have leaned on it and caused it? a friends new Z06 had this happen. Took delivery drove ir fee hundred miles. His detailed pointed out a crack in the fender behind the vent. He contacted GM they shipped a new painted white fender to the dealer. That was 20mos ago he had it installed last week. Matches perfectly.
you sound like you had an inept dealer and possibly detailer here. I feel for you.
getting an attorney did nothing but cause gm ro shif down (which has been discussed dozens of ri.es on here btw..don't do it)
try to get the painted fender from the factory and let them fix the other issues.
and like that other member said it already DOES qualify for lemon law given what you've stated has happened.
call 1800mylemon. I've done it and so has a couple buddies. All of us were made whole.
I wish you luck and hope to hear back from you on here as to the disposition.
OP. Not to insult you but I'd like to present a possibility as to your cracked fender.. could a detailer have leaned on it and caused it? a friends new Z06 had this happen. Took delivery drove ir fee hundred miles. His detailed pointed out a crack in the fender behind the vent. He contacted GM they shipped a new painted white fender to the dealer. That was 20mos ago he had it installed last week. Matches perfectly.
you sound like you had an inept dealer and possibly detailer here. I feel for you.
getting an attorney did nothing but cause gm ro shif down (which has been discussed dozens of ri.es on here btw..don't do it)
try to get the painted fender from the factory and let them fix the other issues.
and like that other member said it already DOES qualify for lemon law given what you've stated has happened.
call 1800mylemon. I've done it and so has a couple buddies. All of us were made whole.
I wish you luck and hope to hear back from you on here as to the disposition.
all I wantis be made whole. I will try that lemon law phone number tomorrow. The thing with the crack is I was there when they took it off the truck and I was there when they pulled all the covering off of it. When they were wiping the car off with microfiber towels is when they came across the crack. It’s dead center above the wheel. The dealership had another 2019 come in and it had a crack in the same exact spot. Which the buyer of it opted to have a new fender painted and the orange peel and body lines turned out horrible.
all I wantis be made whole. I will try that lemon law phone number tomorrow. The thing with the crack is I was there when they took it off the truck and I was there when they pulled all the covering off of it. When they were wiping the car off with microfiber towels is when they came across the crack. It’s dead center above the wheel. The dealership had another 2019 come in and it had a crack in the same exact spot. Which the buyer of it opted to have a new fender painted and the orange peel and body lines turned out horrible.
Hmm wonder if they are being damaged going on or off transport trailer
I originally wanted to send the car back to the factory that way I get factory color paint and factory experienced workers repairing it. They told me they don’t have the facility to make repairs and it would have to be done at a body shop. After talking to head of quality control. they have no problem sending out a shitty product and letting dealerships fix it. He told me that’s what dealerships are for to fix the problems that come off the assembly line . That’s the moment I decided that they knew my car was messed up.
Is it normal for a $145,000 ZR1 to come in with several major problems like a cracked fender, paint discolorations, Thumbprint in paint, Air conditioning not working, suspension popping and clunking, Front grill would blow in when you try to drive it, interior trim installed wrong. and general motors refusing to give me my money back. They just want to tear my car apart. I haven’t had a working car in five months almost . Just got off the phone with my dealership and they said it’s still on the left they’ve done everything that General Motors has told them to do to fix it and it is still clunking . Dealership has had it almost a month. Coming up on five months now
If you can afford to pay cash, you can afford an attorney.
If track cars are anything like track motorcycles, then who cares anyway.
We beat the ever loving **** out of track motorcycles, at least once you get into the advanced classes.
So its hard to see why someone would treat a track car like a garage queen.
Got a paint problem ? Put a sticker over it.
Ac inop ? who cares, your wearing a helmet, and fire suit, so its hot as hell anyway. Plus who races with the ac on ? Beginners ?
Suspension noise, how do you even hear it ?
Sounds like the OP waited for a while to get his special order car, and he was determined to take the car home, even if it was missing two wheels. It also sounds like he doesn't want a replacement car because it would take some months to reorder it. That's why he wants to keep it, as long as he gets a $50k discount. He will use that money to fix everything wrong with it, and for a moral victory.
Must be nice to have $140k in cash laying around to buy a car. But there were lots of guys like that when I lived in San Francisco who would pay cash for a Z06 just to use for track days.
Hey man, I feel for you with all of these problems. When you buy a new car, especially one this expensive, you want it to be a good experience. This obviously takes all the fun out of it. If I were you I'd interview a few attorneys. You should have a good case.
Sounds like the OP waited for a while to get his special order car, and he was determined to take the car home, even if it was missing two wheels. It also sounds like he doesn't want a replacement car because it would take some months to reorder it. That's why he wants to keep it, as long as he gets a $50k discount. He will use that money to fix everything wrong with it, and for a moral victory.
Must be nice to have $140k in cash laying around to buy a car. But there were lots of guys like that when I lived in San Francisco who would pay cash for a Z06 just to use for track days.
Yes I was in the first group of people that ordered a car. It’s really not that uncommon for people to build a successful business. I put in 20 long hard years and now I’m going to enjoy life. Is it a character flaw to be wealthy and retired? It is kind of nice to have the money laying around and knowing I worked for it.
Hey man, I feel for you with all of these problems. When you buy a new car, especially one this expensive, you want it to be a good experience. This obviously takes all the fun out of it. If I were you I'd interview a few attorneys. You should have a good case.
Yes I was in the first group of people that ordered a car. It’s really not that uncommon for people to build a successful business. I put in 20 long hard years and now I’m going to enjoy life. Is it a character flaw to be wealthy and retired? It is kind of nice to have the money laying around and knowing I worked for it.
I always took the safe route when it came to making money/earning a living. Would never think of starting a business. Biggest chance I've ever taken was buying 2% of a movie I've never received a dime on. So, I admire people who have the ***** to take a financial chance. Good for you ! Enjoy your life--you never know when it will end. Hopefully, this will be sorted out with a lemon law application. Good luck !
I have one on order TPW 11/18/19 I would be crazy pissed if that happened to me. I have to say I can't blame him at all $145,000 is still a lot of money to me!!!!!!
Why didn't you take the car back in two days from new after your Xpel guy found all the stuff wrong with it? You could have called off the deal within 72 hours in all likelihood. But I stead you went racing with the car, right? When did you buy this car? Do you have pics of the body fracture and paint n dash damage?
Montana man, you'd get a better response from Dave Smith Chevrolet if you'd picket the dealship all day Saturdays and weekdays. If you really want to get a response, maybe set the car on fire in front of the dealership after the news media arrive to get your story of woe.
Here are my two cents from someone who has gone the lemon law route (not with GM) and has bought 3 new Corvettes (and a few used ones).
- We should all learn from these mistakes. The OP admits to accepting the car from the dealer knowing that the fender was cracked (post 66). That was mistake #1.
- OP took car to detailer before letting the dealer fix the paint. That was mistake #2 - they could claim that the detailer caused the damage.
- OP makes numerous posts on this forum (and maybe elsewhere) and doesn't come off very credible. I wonder how he communicates with the dealer? In these cases, the dealer is your friend, not your competition. Three things to do: Write what you want to say, and then set it aside. Wait until you calm down, and review it for clarity, remove emotion from the statements of fact. And proofread. Proofread it again and then have your wife proofread it. You can come off as a ranting lunatic when you don't. And fix little things like "lift" or "fender" so that the reader doesn't have to try and figure out what you mean to say.
- Mistake #4 is not being realistic. GM is not going to take the car back to the factory. GM is not going to give you $50K for your troubles, which honestly, are not that big a deal (bad paint) compared to failing drivetrains, wheels falling off, etc. I'm not trying to diminish the pain here, just sayin' that in the grand scheme of things...
I also agree with the posters who suggest that as a track car, it's not a garage queen. And how the heck can you hear suspension noises in a track car? Aside from the exhaust noise, you likely have on a helmet. Those gotta be some serious noises!
I'm trying to be helpful, not critical. Best of luck to the OP.
09-17-2018, 09:56 PM
Many Lemon Law provisions allow for time in shop to be a deciding factor in whether the car would qualify. In your case, that time should be met.
