Passed by a Base model
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Passed by a Base model
I was doing some coaching last week and I saw a young man have his "ah-hah" moment. I vividly remember driving on a race track by myself for the first time when I got passed by a coach in a civic. The civic had 150k miles and the cheapest tires Les Schwab would sell the guy. That is when I realized that it was not what you drive, but how you drive it! Dude had a c6 zr1 so he may even be on these forums. I am glad I spent the money on driver training, watch me fly by all these "faster" cars. ZR1, ACR, performonte, 488 etc etc. #passed by a base model.
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May 4, 2019, 01:57 AM
Burning Brakes
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I’m sorry to rain on your parade, but posting videos like this is in poor taste, and does nothing to prove who or what is faster except to stroke your own ego IMO.
Having done this for nearly 20 years, my experience with passing on track is, if the drivers are roughly the same skills level, once on track you will NEVER see them again or pass them if you don’t start off the grid right behind them, or have a massive disparity in hardware.
I recall an excited driver in an M3 coming up to me after passing my Grand Sport during a previous session. I just sat there, smiled, and nodded. Next session out I passed him about mid session, afterwards he sought me out again and was shocked at the difference in speed between the two sessions. I smiled, and told him the first session was the very first time I drove the brand new GS on track, and I was using said session to bed in my brakes. When he caught up to me I was doing my cool down lap after a lap driving at 8/10th, to allow the brakes to cool and the pads in the CCM brakes to return to operating temp.
Judging from the numbers of GoPro cameras on his car, I suspect I’m on someone’s “look I passed a Corvette” track video on YouTube somewhere.
Having done this for nearly 20 years, my experience with passing on track is, if the drivers are roughly the same skills level, once on track you will NEVER see them again or pass them if you don’t start off the grid right behind them, or have a massive disparity in hardware.
I recall an excited driver in an M3 coming up to me after passing my Grand Sport during a previous session. I just sat there, smiled, and nodded. Next session out I passed him about mid session, afterwards he sought me out again and was shocked at the difference in speed between the two sessions. I smiled, and told him the first session was the very first time I drove the brand new GS on track, and I was using said session to bed in my brakes. When he caught up to me I was doing my cool down lap after a lap driving at 8/10th, to allow the brakes to cool and the pads in the CCM brakes to return to operating temp.
Judging from the numbers of GoPro cameras on his car, I suspect I’m on someone’s “look I passed a Corvette” track video on YouTube somewhere.
Burning Brakes
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I’m sorry to rain on your parade, but posting videos like this is in poor taste, and does nothing to prove who or what is faster except to stroke your own ego IMO.
Having done this for nearly 20 years, my experience with passing on track is, if the drivers are roughly the same skills level, once on track you will NEVER see them again or pass them if you don’t start off the grid right behind them, or have a massive disparity in hardware.
I recall an excited driver in an M3 coming up to me after passing my Grand Sport during a previous session. I just sat there, smiled, and nodded. Next session out I passed him about mid session, afterwards he sought me out again and was shocked at the difference in speed between the two sessions. I smiled, and told him the first session was the very first time I drove the brand new GS on track, and I was using said session to bed in my brakes. When he caught up to me I was doing my cool down lap after a lap driving at 8/10th, to allow the brakes to cool and the pads in the CCM brakes to return to operating temp.
Judging from the numbers of GoPro cameras on his car, I suspect I’m on someone’s “look I passed a Corvette” track video on YouTube somewhere.
Having done this for nearly 20 years, my experience with passing on track is, if the drivers are roughly the same skills level, once on track you will NEVER see them again or pass them if you don’t start off the grid right behind them, or have a massive disparity in hardware.
I recall an excited driver in an M3 coming up to me after passing my Grand Sport during a previous session. I just sat there, smiled, and nodded. Next session out I passed him about mid session, afterwards he sought me out again and was shocked at the difference in speed between the two sessions. I smiled, and told him the first session was the very first time I drove the brand new GS on track, and I was using said session to bed in my brakes. When he caught up to me I was doing my cool down lap after a lap driving at 8/10th, to allow the brakes to cool and the pads in the CCM brakes to return to operating temp.
Judging from the numbers of GoPro cameras on his car, I suspect I’m on someone’s “look I passed a Corvette” track video on YouTube somewhere.
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What would be interesting is what the other drivers were thinking or "cussing" as you sped past them.
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I'm not sure why this video offends you. Maybe I should have included pro drivers passing me in their Miatas, happened just a couple of weeks ago during a downpour. You are right, people get passed on track all the time for all sorts of reasons. I felt a little dirty passing that McLaren who was clearly lifting for the sound booth between T5 and T6 at Laguna. But at the end of the day, we are both just enjoying our cars. I just happen to be enjoying mine at a quicker pace than these guys at that very moment.
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Guess I am just trying to preach driver training. I remember deciding between my z51 and zo6 when I was ordering my vette. Glad I chose the previous and spent the rest on driver training.
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Not trying to pretend that my stock z51 is faster than a performonte or ZR1. Just sharing my driving experiences around these amazing machines.
I typically run in the 2:05 range at Thunderhill and 1:45ish at Laguna (with a lift for the sound booth) ... Working on getting a decent time at Sonoma this year.
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It doesn't. Just pointing out that videos like this are in poor taste and disingenuous. Smack of "inferiority" complex if you have to post videos of you passing other supercars only. Video serves no purpose except for click bait and ego stroking. I would rather see a full lap or full session, with commentary if necessary, as snippets taken fully out of context like this is hardly entertaining IMO. Now, if you have a video of a fierce back and forth between a Mac or Prancing Horse or a GTx that took like half a dozen turns to resolve? That would make a cool video in MY book
But you're right. Whatever floats your boat. God knows I have my own collection of video I could put together of people doing stupid stuff on track. Just because I don't share it with the public doesn't mean YOU shouldn't share yours.
Just don't be surprised that some of us don't share the same enthusiasm wrt the content.
But you're right. Whatever floats your boat. God knows I have my own collection of video I could put together of people doing stupid stuff on track. Just because I don't share it with the public doesn't mean YOU shouldn't share yours.
Just don't be surprised that some of us don't share the same enthusiasm wrt the content.
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It doesn't. Just pointing out that videos like this are in poor taste and disingenuous. Smack of "inferiority" complex if you have to post videos of you passing other supercars only. Video serves no purpose except for click bait and ego stroking. I would rather see a full lap or full session, with commentary if necessary, as snippets taken fully out of context like this is hardly entertaining IMO. Now, if you have a video of a fierce back and forth between a Mac or Prancing Horse or a GTx that took like half a dozen turns to resolve? That would make a cool video in MY book
But you're right. Whatever floats your boat. God knows I have my own collection of video I could put together of people doing stupid stuff on track. Just because I don't share it with the public doesn't mean YOU shouldn't share yours.
Just don't be surprised that some of us don't share the same enthusiasm wrt the content.
But you're right. Whatever floats your boat. God knows I have my own collection of video I could put together of people doing stupid stuff on track. Just because I don't share it with the public doesn't mean YOU shouldn't share yours.
Just don't be surprised that some of us don't share the same enthusiasm wrt the content.
lolAt the same time, isn't the reason the Corvette Is so wildly popular because it can hang with sports cars that cost 3-5x as much? I kinda thought that was the point.
My videos are all about me enjoying my c7. The last video I made was of me taking it on an exotic car rally and street racing in the desert. The one before that was about drifting. This one happenes to be memories of the exotic cars I blew by on a racetrack. All pretty fond memories for me.
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Meh, everyone's bitching. "Poor taste" "Roll race". Whatever. I'm a sucker for fun dashcam (PDR) videos. I actually liked it and I say bring it! I'd be pretty damned excited too if I was rolling with these supercars at Leguna Seca. I don't see any stroking of ego, just passing supercars (who weren't really racing). People need to lighten up. /smdh
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Yes, very rare. 223 Nobles snuck into the United States.
And was that a crack at the Noble's reliability? Because if it was, it was spot on! I have not had good reliability luck with it yet... It is doing 4 track days before the end of the month. If it makes it through those 4 days without breaking I will be surprised.
And was that a crack at the Noble's reliability? Because if it was, it was spot on! I have not had good reliability luck with it yet... It is doing 4 track days before the end of the month. If it makes it through those 4 days without breaking I will be surprised.
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Meh, everyone's bitching. "Poor taste" "Roll race". Whatever. I'm a sucker for fun dashcam (PDR) videos. I actually liked it and I say bring it! I'd be pretty damned excited too if I was rolling with these supercars at Leguna Seca. I don't see any stroking of ego, just passing supercars (who weren't really racing). People need to lighten up. /smdh
It is quite an experience. I am doing some coaching now for first timers. If this is something that appeals to you, come on out and let me be your coach.
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It doesn't. Just pointing out that videos like this are in poor taste and disingenuous. Smack of "inferiority" complex if you have to post videos of you passing other supercars only. Video serves no purpose except for click bait and ego stroking. I would rather see a full lap or full session, with commentary if necessary, as snippets taken fully out of context like this is hardly entertaining IMO. Now, if you have a video of a fierce back and forth between a Mac or Prancing Horse or a GTx that took like half a dozen turns to resolve? That would make a cool video in MY book
But you're right. Whatever floats your boat. God knows I have my own collection of video I could put together of people doing stupid stuff on track. Just because I don't share it with the public doesn't mean YOU shouldn't share yours.
Just don't be surprised that some of us don't share the same enthusiasm wrt the content.
But you're right. Whatever floats your boat. God knows I have my own collection of video I could put together of people doing stupid stuff on track. Just because I don't share it with the public doesn't mean YOU shouldn't share yours.
Just don't be surprised that some of us don't share the same enthusiasm wrt the content.
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But I am fairly confident I can enjoy my car without that.What if I were in their shoes? I will be taking my Noble for 6 track days in the next 4 weeks. Inferior cars will be flying by me left and right. What if I end up in a video of theirs? ... I think that would be cool!
As far as the driver mod thing. I stand by it. You can add long tubes, cat less this, intake that.... For what? a few grand? Let's say that same money goes into 10 track days. The guy with seat time in his stock car will blow away the modified beginner. If the OP of a first modifications thread has money to blow on mods, doesn't it stand to reason that he likes driving fast, and would appreciate a track time suggestion to go along with the bolt on's?
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